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Kathy Lueders; Dr. Heid Fearn, Thursday, 9-3-15 (42.16MB; download) -- Guests: Kathy Lueders; Dr. Heidi Fearn; Topics: First segment: NASA Commercial Crew. Second segment, Dr. Heidi Fearn re Mach Thrusters. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. Welcome to these two recorded interviews during the week of the AIAA Space 2015 conference. The first interview for about 40 minutes is with Kathy Lueders, the NASA Commercial Crew Program Manager. I was joined in the interview by my two co-hosts, Rand Simberg and Leonard David. The second interview took place on Thursday, Sept. 3 at Dr. Jim Woodward's physics lab at Cal St. Fullerton University with the tour being conducted by Dr. Heidi Fearn. Robert Jacobson was my co-host. During the first segment, Ms. Lueders explained the commercial crew program, milestones, budget issues, program objectives, and the certification process. She explained these subtopics in detail. Rand, Leonard and I asked her many questions about the NASA definition of safety, we proposed "crazy thinking" scenarios to her to see how NASA might react in such a situation and if they would be flexible enough to use hardware that may be ready but not yet certified. Kathy pointed out that non-cash assistance was still flowing to Dream Chaser and Blue Origin. When asked if she thought NASA would get its full commercial crew budget that they are asking for, she was positive but you decide after listening to her. This was a good, comprehensive discussion on many important topics including NASA risk taking and the commercial crew astronaut selection process.
In the second segment, Robert Jacobson and I drove down to Cal St. Fullerton to see Dr. Woodward's lab and to talk with Dr. Heidi Fearn about their mach thruster work. The lab was very small & most the equipment was made by Dr. Woodward years ago. Heidi showed us a mach thruster and explained how to see the effect on the computer that measures the small amount of movement from the thruster. She explained it very well so while you won't be able to see what she is talking about, I believe you can easily follow along. We walked over to the vacuum cylinder which she explained, she then talked about the floating tables and why the need for them, plus we talked about scaling up mach thrusters. I asked her several questions about their out of the box work at Cal St. Fullerton, students, delivering papers, and her reception by her peers. You will find her responses to these questions to be very interesting. Later during the tour, she turned on the experiment and Robert and I could clearly see the computer recording the movement over the background noise. We have a cell phone picture of it which I will put on the blog for this show. Near the end of our 45 minute tour and discussion with Heidi, we asked her about funding and timelines. She suggested a timeline for going to Alpha Centauri which sounded way too soon to me but she explained why she thought it was plausible. Read the rest @ www.thespaceshow.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Fri, 04 Sep 2015 18:04:42 UTC
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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 9-2-15 (4.44MB; download) -- Guests: John Batchelor, Anatoly Zak, Dr. David Livingston; Topics: New developments with the Voschotny Spaceport, Soyuz launches & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. John Batchelor and I welcomed Anatoly Zak back to Hotel Mars to update us on the Voschotny spaceport, Soyuz rocket launches, the new Angara rocket and pad development, plus Russian space station plans past 2024. We also talked about the 6,00KM distance from most Russian centers to Voschotny and the constraints and limitations on getting their with large shipments due to old infrastructure that cannot handle large loads. Anatoly was asked about the orbital inclination from launch from Voschotny. I also asked him about the personal involvement of Putin in the spaceport development project. He said Putin does not get involved directly but it is known to be his pet project.Please post your comments on The Space Show blog URL above. You can email Mr. Batchelor or Anatoly Zak through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Thu, 03 Sep 2015 13:43:02 UTC
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Dr. Jens Biele, Friday, 8-28-15 (44.04MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Jens Biele. Topics: The Philae Lander & Rosetta Mission, DLR & ESA missions & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed to the show Dr. Jens Biele of the DLR to discuss the Philae Lander as part of the Rosetta Mission to Comet 67P. During the first segment of our 1 hour 27 minute discussion, Dr. Biele summarized the Rosetta mission going back to its planning and development days, the flight to Comet 67PM and the Philae Lander's anchor landing failure which he talked about at length. He also talked about communications from the lander to the orbiter and the narrow window for successful communications. We talked about solar and battery power, the type of data it can still transmit and related issues. Later, he was asked about other forms of propulsion including ion thrusters and advanced propulsion, plus he was asked if it would have been better to power the spacecraft by an RTG. He summarized some of the trades involved in making these types of decisions so don't miss the discussion. BJohn asked about other DLR missions so MASCOT was discussed and later he discussed AIDA and AIM. As part of this discussion flyby missions were detailed and trojan asteroids were discussed. The subject of searching for life came up along with the discovery of organic molecules. Near the end of the segment, Roger from Rutgers asked if they considered Philae a success. Don't miss his answer to this one. Other topics in this segment including drill samples, mission operating cost considerations, launcher choices and the shape of 67P which was a puzzle yet to be explained. In the second segment, I asked our guest about the extremely long mission planning and design times coupled with the very long flight time and how that impacted people wanting to work space projects. As you will hear, it is not much different in Europe than here in the States with the same issues with NASA missions here. BJohn asked additional questions about future DLR missions and robotic exploration. This is the discussion that talked about both the AIDA and AIM European missions. Listener Helen asked about general European public support of ESA and space. You might be surprised by what our guest had to say in response to Helen so don't miss it. In this context, Dr. Biele talked about ESA PR and its limitations and constraints. Toward the end of our program, he talked about human spaceflight, referenced Mars and going to Phobos as an initial part of human Mars exploration. When I asked our guest for closing comments, he said "If you dare you win. Take Some risks." His final comments were " Landers are cool!" Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. You can reach Dr. Biele through me or his DLR website.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 29 Aug 2015 15:01:37 UTC
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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Dr. Curt Niebur, Wednesday, 8-26-15 (5.17MB; download) -- Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. Curt Niebur, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: The Cassini Saturn mission. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm). For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you. Please note that audio and transition issues are a result of copying the John Batchelor broadcast & are not within my control as they originate in the Batchelor studio.John Batchelor and I welcomed Dr. Curt Niebur of NASA HQ to update us on the Cassini mission and to talk about some of the amazing discoveries made so far by the spacecraft. Some of the specifics we talked about included the overall scientific knowledge gained from Cassini, the Saturn moons, the rings, and more. We talked about the Moon Titan, plus shielding the spacecraft when it flies within the rings by using the high gain antenna as a sort of an umbrella to protect the more delicate spacecraft from particle impact. Our guest was asked about the mysterious red arcs recently seen in a close flyby photo of Tethys, then we talked about the final Cassini mission, the Cassini Farewell Tour.
You can email Mr. Batchelor or Dr. Curt Niebur through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:20:10 UTC
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Tim Dooley, Tuesday, 8-25-15 (53.28MB; download) -- Guest: Timothy (Tim) Dooley; Topics: The Victorian Space Age and Tim's new book, "Tales From An Alternate History." Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed back to the show Tim Dooley to discuss terraforming Venues from the perspective of his new book "Terraforming Venus: Tales From An Alternate History." His excellent book is available at Amazon and if you purchase it using the OGLF portal (instructions are on our website and all archived summary programs including those on our blog) Amazon will make a contribution to TSS/OGLF. Visit Tim's website, www.victorianspaceage.com. Also, it is important to note that Tim's work is part of the steampunk genre and it is pure fantasy. Tim was not constrained by reality, physics, or engineering. His only limitations had to do with his imagination. Sit back and let your imagination go and enjoy the Victorian Space Age stories and times and the amazing images that Tim has produced to illustrate the stories. In our first segment, Tim introduced us to his storyline comprising Tales From An Alternate History. In addition, if you follow along with us on Tim's Victorian Space Age website, he tells you how to access story lines he is discussing, how to see the illustrations, and to follow the time lines. I strongly suggest you listen to this show and follow along on the website. The first storyline we talked about focused on his book, "Terraforming Venus." Tim introduced us to the main characters, the propulsion technology, and how Venus was terraformed by figuring out how to change the rotation period to match Earth's rotation of a 24 hour day. Note again all of this is pure fantasy so let your imagination run wild as Tim details the Victorian Space Age for us, starting with activity on Venus. Later in the segment, Tim was asked how he handled life support issues, microgravity, spacesuits, and more. Given the Victorian Space Age and fantasy, Tim was not constrained by the realities of space travel so the Victorian Space Age space program could do just about anything in space. He also introduced us to silicon based life, to aliens, and in the second segment aliens become more a part of the timelines. In responding to a question about rockets, Tim said rockets were the mainstay of the space program in this period, even for interstellar travel. Don't miss how he designed interstellar travel for this period. A listener asked if the Victorian Space Age was a private or commercial project or government run program. He said it was government but the US let down in some areas so the European Consortium stepped forward for Mars travel. Before the segment ended, he told us how he modeled a character regarding Mars travel after Dr. Robert Zubrin. In the second segment, John from Ft. Worth called us to talk physics, fantasy and more. Read the rest of the summary @ www.thespaceshow.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:21:20 UTC
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Dr. Judith Curry, Monday, 8-24-15 (30.92MB; download) -- Dr. Judith A. Curry is an American climatologist and former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology. Her research interests include hurricanes, remote sensing, atmospheric modeling, polar climates, air-sea interactions, and the use of unmanned aerial vehicles for atmospheric research. She is a member of the National Research Council's Climate Research Committee. Curry has authored over 140 scientific papers and has served as editor or co-editor of important scientific papers and journals. Dr. Curry also hosts a popular science blog in which she writes on topics related to climate science and the science-policy interface. Read the rest of this summary @ www.thespaceshow.com or http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Tue, 25 Aug 2015 17:02:45 UTC
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Dr. William (Bill) Rowe, Sunday, 8-23-15 (62.15MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. William (Bill) Rowe: Topics: Possible magnesium deficiency for space walks, cardiology issues for astronauts. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed Dr. Bill Rowe back to the show for this nearly two hour discussion regarding medical risks for spacewalks and astronauts. During the first segment, Dr. Rowe focused on a possible astronaut magnesium deficiency that would cause cardiovascular problems, especially with a space walk. Dr. Rowe explained why, talked about the adrenalin levels being 2 times those on Earth plus decreased plasma levels. He spent some time explaining these issues, their relationships to one another and why he believes them to be risk factors. In his discussion, he referenced health conditions for some of the Apollo era astronauts, plus he talked about microgravity issues and a possible mitigation strategy of using I.V. saline with the astronauts in space. At times the discussion was medically and technically complex but Bill broke it down for those of us not in the medical profession. He also talked about his experience over decades of practicing medicine and being a diagnostician, referencing many of his relevant patient studies along the way, including for example his work with Sy Mah. Dr. Doug sent in an email regarding dehydration and a headward fluid shift. Toward the end of the first segment, Dr. Doug called in to suggest that if an astronaut did an EVA in a pressurized rover vehicle rather than an Apollo era spacesuit, adrenalin levels and other risks would be mitigated. This was an interesting discussion with Dr. Rowe who did not agree with Doug's premise. Listen and let us know what you think by posting on TSS blog. In the second segment, Dr. Rowe started off saying more about the use of I.V. saline with astronauts, a topic he discussed in the first segment. . BJohn had several email questions asking about spacesuit gloves and exoskeleton gloves given what Dr. Rowe was saying about finger tips and related items. Other topics discussed in this segment included the ISS, the one year Twins Study, Vitamin D usage in space, iron risks for spaceflight, plus the implication for some of these space risks to the problem of terrestrial urban pollution. As he has done before, Bill advocated for the need to have subcutaneous pharmaceutical administration for astronauts, then he addressed issues relating to the calcium-magnesium ratio. Bill provided us with a good set of concluding comments, plus he suggested healthy guidelines for our lives right here on Earth. Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. You can find out more about Dr. Rowe's work by visiting his website, www.femsinspace.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:32:41 UTC
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Jeff Smith, Saturday, 8-22-15 (7.64MB; download) -- Guest: Jeff Smith. Topics: The new Space Show website blog and comment interactive system. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. Welcome to this new regular series in support of The Space Show Website & Archives Modernization Program. The Space Show will be bringing you daily short interviews (10-15 minutes each) with listeners who will share with us why they believe the new website and archival quality database will be important to them and enhance their Space Show listening experience. Welcome to this special program featuring Space Show listener and supporter Jeff Smith. Jeff has shared with us why the new Space Show website with the integrated blog and commenting system is of value to him and others. Jeff had much to say about the importance of quality blog comments and how they enhance the program. With our new website, blog & Disqus commenting system, we will be offering the best possible experience to our listeners. Listen to what Jeff had to say about this and why his beta testing of the new site will contribute to having a state of the art blog and commenting system for all Space Show programs. You can post your comments/questions about this segment or these short broadcasts on The Space Show blog at the above URL. In addition, please visit 1. Indiegogo project site: www.indiegogo.com/projects/oglf-and-the-space-show-modernization-campaign; 2. Our support site: www.supportthespaceshow.com; 3. Facebook Space Show page: www.facebook.com/OGLFTheSpaceShow?ref=hl. Post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 22 Aug 2015 18:32:33 UTC
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Dr. Lewis Dartnell, Friday, 8-21-15 (38.19MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Lewis Dartnell. Topics: Rebooting civilization after a cataclysmic event & extrapolating to starting a space settlement. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed Dr. Lewis Dartnell to discuss his book, "The Knowledge: How To Rebuild Civilization In The Aftermath Of A Cataclysm," then applying it to starting up a space settlement regardless of where the settlement might be located. During our 68 minute discussion, Dr. Dartnell started out by giving us the background to his having written the book, some of the applicable constraints for the book, and that it was written for terrestrial events though there were ways to extrapolate some of it to space settlement issues. Dr. Dartnell explained what it would take to reboot civilization depending on why it was destroyed. He listed three possible sources of destruction. One was a viral epidemic or pandemic, another was nuclear war, and another was being hit by a large asteroid or something similar. He also said it might be easier to reboot after a pandemic because infrastructure would still be standing and largely available for use whereas with the other two, destruction would be overwhelming. We talked about skill sets needed to reboot, then we talked about the minimum size for a new community to start over. Here we extrapolated to space, exploring what it would take to start a space settlement. The initial numbers were high but not as high as what would be needed later on. The need for genetic diversity was also high. Several times he referred to needing more women than men for breeding to seed the new settlement, but without genetic diversity and in light of possible in-breeding to get the early numbers up, generations of humans might be born that were genetically weak and that could be a problem. Genetic diversity, needing more women than men, microgravity and radiation issues were just a few of the challenges for the new space settlement. Past the initial number to get the settlement going, to sustain it there would be a need for thousands in the community. You don't want to miss this discussion as it was an eye opener. Don't miss why he said he would rather start a new Earth settlement even after a horrific cataclysm than a Martian settlement. He said the Earth settlement would be far easier no matter what the challenges than the Mars settlement. Dr. Dartnell then talked about the possibility that someday an Earth-like exoplanet would be discovered so we compared starting a settlement there as opposed to Mars. To make this comparison, we zeroed out all issues relating to space transportation. You might be surprised by what Dr. Dartnell concluded. Later we compared a lunar settlement with the other two. Much of our discussion revolved around the fact that Earth was and is habitable and even after the horrific event, would remain habitable. Read the rest of this summary @ www.thespaceshow.com or www.thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 22 Aug 2015 16:36:24 UTC
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Website Listener Spencer with updates, Thursday, 8-20-15 (7.14MB; download) -- Guest: Spencer Austin-Martin; Topics: Our new perk for listener voices on the Speaker's Corner, the new blog & listener comments, plus sponsorship opportunities and total website traffic. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. Welcome to the Thursday, August 20th short discussion with Spencer to provide all of you with an update as to our new perk and clarifications with new blog with listener comments and our sponsorship packages with total website traffic. As you will hear, we have introduced a new $50 perk which affords listeners the opportunity to present their message to the space world in a one minute mp3 on our new home page. Listeners can change their message monthly so listen to the details explained in this program. We also clarified some issues around the new Space Show blog which will be fully integrated with the website including listener comments. We then addressed our unique and rare sponsorship opportunities and the fact that our website exposure will nearly double with the new site as we integrate the blog with the website rather than having a blog with a completely different address taking viewers and listeners away from our home page. The reality is your message will be seen by nearly twice the number of people currently visiting the website on a monthly basis and heard by thousands more when your message is spoken on every Space Show program. Site traffic will grow much faster with the new site and set of community tools. You can post your comments/questions about this segment or these short broadcasts on The Space Show blog at the above URL. Please visit 1. Indiegogo project site: www.indiegogo.com/projects/oglf-and-the-space-show-modernization-campaign; 2. Our support site: www.supportthespaceshow.com; 3. Facebook Space Show page: www.facebook.com/OGLFTheSpaceShow?ref=hl. Post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above.
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