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The Space Show
The Space Show focuses on timely and important issues influencing the development of outer-space commerce, space tourism,space exploration and space development. The Space Show is committed to facilitating our becoming a space-faring nation and society with a growing and self-sustaining space-faring economy. The Space Show also focuses on other related subjects of interest to us all.
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Walt Cunningham @ Rocky Mtn College, Friday, 4-4-14 (59.81MB; download) --
Guest: Dr. John Jurist. Topics: Space program related medical & biotechnical advances, spinoffs, human spaceflight. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed back Dr. John Jurist to discuss some space program related medical and biotechnical advancements to illustrate some of the benefits and importance of human spaceflight. Listeners also asked him about radiation and one listener in particular answered my question as to why so many space advocates & enthusiasts dismiss the human factors when planning their versions of a humans to the Moon or Mars mission. During the first segment of our 90 minute discussion, Dr. Jurist talked about the former astronaut Deke Slayton's experience with NASA and spaceflight during NASA's early days when it was discovered that Deke had atrial fibrillation (afib) regarding his heart rate. Given that I've made it public that afib was the reason for my medical leave of absence plus I talked on air about my cardiac ablation procedure at UCSF Medical Center, it seemed appropriate for Dr. Jurist to open with that topic. Dr. Jurist showed how Deke's afib experience was in many ways, with NASA research, the root of biotechnology and patient monitoring, wireless monitoring, and even the early days of afib research. He talked about early space and aviation companies making the monitoring devices for the patient & medical public though this is hardly ever mentioned when talking about NASA spinoffs. Listeners and I asked lots of questions about these advancements coming from sources other than NASA had NASA not been around. Would we have had them anyway and around the same time? Don't miss what Dr. Jurist had to say in response to this line of questioning. Dr. Jurist also spoke about bone density issues and osteoporosis analysis and mitigation devices and drugs, many of which have been tested and used in space. Also, aerospace companies made the initial hardware used for bone density analysis. Other human factors issues came up and were discussed including vision problems such as a higher incidence of cataracts for astronauts, plus issues probably resulting from fluid shifts in the eye due to microgravity. John talked about the use of ablation procedures throughout the medical profession and Holter Monitoring for cardiac issues. He also noted that early bone monitoring was developed by lunar related companies. Our guest was asked just how important the medical advancements are to HSF and he said very important but they have been undersold to policy makers and the public. They are also complicated to explain and understand. Radiation was discussed and turned out to be a significant part of the discussion in Part 2 of our program. Toward the end of the segment, I asked why so many space enthusiasts seem to dismiss the human factors. To read the rest of the review see www.thespaceshow.com or http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 07 May 2014 17:11:34 UTC
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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 5-6-14 (114.46MB; download) -- Guest: Robert (Bob) Zimmerman. Topics: Russia-NASA space relationship with sanctions, ISS, SpaceX, Air Force & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed Bob Zimmerman back to the program to discuss the issues facing the U.S. and Russia as a result of the Russian aggression in the Crimea & the Ukraine and in light of U.S. sanctions against Russia for this aggression. We discussed possible interruptions regarding the ISS, ongoing Soyuz flights for American astronauts, continued purchases of the RD-180 engine for the Atlas rocket and the N-33 for the Orbital Antares rocket. We discussed side issues relative to these big picture issues as well. In the first segment of this 2 hour 5 minute show, Bob explained the Russia-NASA space relationship from his perspective. We talked about there being a probable low risk that the parties we would quit cooperating with one another on the ISS but more of our attention in this segment was focused on the Atlas rocket and the use of the RD-180 engine which is a Russian engine. This focus was largely the result of our first phone call from Kelly and as you will hear, Bob and Kelly did not always see eye to eye on the issue and they both seemed to enjoy talking at the same time. For the record, when that happens, as the show host, its nearly impossible to get words or comments to stop them until at least one person stops talking. This is an artifact of the use of a cell phone and the loss of full duplex voice exchange. The issues discussed in this segment regarding the Ukraine and the RD-180 were also carried forward to the second segment as well. Bob thought there might be a silver lining in all this in that it might be waking up important segments here in America and forcing the space industry to stop being so dependent on Russia and building up our commercial space industry. Also discussed in this segment was the Orbital Antares which uses the Russian N-33 engine. The upcoming Orbital and ATK merger was part of our discussion and the possible replacement of the N-33 with an ATK solid rocket motor for the first stage. In the second segment, John from Ft. Worth called in regarding the Ukrainian issue . He also talked about possible U.S. government waivers for the engines. To read the rest of this review, visit www.thespceshow.com or http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com & scroll down to this show this date. Thank you. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 07 May 2014 16:37:35 UTC
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Michael Listner, Monday, 5-5-14 (83.23MB; download) -- Guest: Michael Listner. Topics: Space law issues regarding the SpaceX litigation against the Air Force/U.S. Government & Russia & NASA re moving forward on ISS & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed Michael Listner back to the program to explain the legal issues involved in the SpaceX-Air Force lawsuit and to discuss the Russian-NASA issues regarding the ISS as a result of U.S. sanctions on Russia and Russian leaders due to the crisis in the Ukraine & Crimea. In the first segment of our 90 minute program, Michael addressed the SpaceX law suit. He explained that it was a bid protest law suit, he explained the background and the legal issues involved. He also said SpaceX was not asking for money but for a Declaratory Judgment that they are eligible to bid on bulk buy launch services which up to now have been the exclusive domain of ULA. He also said it was the court that picked up on the national security issue regarding ULA, the RD180 engine and the continued purchase of the engines from Dmitry Rogozin & Russia in spite of the Executive Order that may prevent such new purchase activity. On this issue, the court issued a temporary injunction in favor of SpaceX. He also explained the process wherein ULA has joined the action as an interested party. Our entire first segment was devoted to Michael responding to listener questions, explaining the legal concepts, and making sure we understood what this law suit was about and the legal issues the lawsuit focuses on. In the second segment, Michael started off with a few clarifications dealing with the lawsuit and mentioned that as he understood it, ULA had offered the Air Force a guarantee to replace the launch and satellite if one of their launches failed. Given ULA resources, that would not be that unusual but it would be a hard act for SpaceX to follow given the fact that SpaceX is young and still growing/developing. We then switched to the topic of Russia and NASA. Here, Michael talked about legal agreements and treaties, including the ISS Agreement among partners known as the IGA (he said it amounts to a treaty). He did not think it would be that easy for the current problems with Russia as a result of our sanctions given the Ukrainian and Crimean issues to escalate to taking down the ISS agreement and other space activities underway with Russia and NASA. Michael was asked about the likelihood of NASA getting more funding and working with SpaceX to fastback the Dragon development for taking humans to the ISS. Other questions took us back to the lawsuit discussed in the first segment. As we neared the end of the program, Michael also talked about the PR campaigns by SpaceX and ULA and how this was a high stakes lawsuit. Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. You can contact Michael through me. For Twitter use Michael J. Listner@ponder68. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Tue, 06 May 2014 17:34:17 UTC
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Rod Pyle, Sunday, 5-4-14 (102.96MB; download) -- Guest: Rod Pyle. Topics: We discussed our guests new book, "Innovation The NASA Way" plus our space policy, reusability & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases, including "Innovation The NASA Way," can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed Rod Pyle to the show to discuss his new book, "Innovation The NASA Way: Harnessing The Power Of Your Organization For Breakthrough Success," plus we talked about our space policy, reusability, and other issues. During the first segment of our 1 hour 52 minute show, Mr. Pyle started by giving us an overview of his background and experiences that led him to writing this book. Specifically, Rod led leadership training at NASA's JSC for executives. From this background, he used the story telling format to illustrate NASA innovation. Each chapter tells a different story, several of which we highlighted in our discussion. Rod mentioned innovation at various NASA centers but did say JPL stood out for him. When asked for the most innovative NASA projects, he talked about some projects that were left on the editor's computer including the Apollo Guidance Control Computer but he did focus on and highlight the Lunar Module. We also talked about NASA today and back in the Apollo days. Rod had much to say about this, including how today there seems to be a push for guaranteed results which of course do not exist. He said NASA was known by three important key words: Boldness, Daring and Passion. Listeners asked about reusability and I mentioned a possible reusability moment similar to the previous Apollo moment. In the second segment, we talked about his Viking chapter & the Viking experiments. John from Ft. Worth called in regarding a smaller shuttle plan that might have been less ambitious - would it have been better? Questions came about NewSpace and innovating the SpaceX way! Doug called and did not think that there would be a Reusability Moment like with Apollo but that reusability enhanced prospects for that type of moment, like a manned Mars mission. Rod was challenged with questions from the perspective that Apollo was the wrong way to go to and develop space. We talked about his forthcoming book, "Curiosity: The Inside Story" and our excitement over a potential Europa mission. Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. For more information & to contact Rod, visit his website www.rodpylebooks.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 05 May 2014 16:28:01 UTC
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David Ruck, Friday, 5-2-14 (83.04MB; download) -- Guest: David Ruck. Topics: We discussed his film project, "I Want To Be An Astronaut" & why our space program is important. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed independent film maker David Ruck to the program to discuss his new film, "I Want To Be An Astronaut." During the first segment of our 90 minute discussion, Mr. Ruck talked about his own background and he came to seeing the importance of NASA and being an astronaut so he decided to do a documentary type film on the subject. He describes how he selected Blair to be the subject of the film as the crew follows Blair and his space interests through high school into his enrollment and taking the oath for entering the Naval Academy. He also made the point of saying he was not a space advocate at the time he was making the film but that this was a learning process for him and he certainly is an advocate now. Note that he has a focus on NASA and our public space program which he repeated many times over as being owned by we the people so we can & should demand better and expect more. He repeated over and over again that space travel and work is a public benefit. He also spoke about the need for better STEM programming and results and held the film's star, Blair, up to the light as a an example for not only STEM but for showing the value of space to everyone he comes in contact with out in the public. Mr. Ruck talked about our national and individual priorities, all the time making the case for space. The film has a website, www.theastronautfilm.com which I recommend you visit for more information, to set up local screenings and topic discussions plus lots more. the Director's Blog is on the website but David also spoke about the website Tumblr and blogs, http://sagansense.tumblr.com and astronautfilm.tumblr.com. One of the questions asked our guest was about there being a separate space track at the Naval Academy. While David did not know, he did suggest that up to 50% of the Midshipmen were interested in going to space. In the second segment, we talked more on STEM, robotics, and science. David talked about his process in his area for capitalizing on student robotic interests, highlighting First Robotics. A listener asked about the film's length which is under 40 minutes. David said it was specifically made with film festivals in mind and that being 40 minutes or under was a requirement. I asked him about the role of Cecil Gregory in the film as Cecil has been a Space Show guest in the past. David had much to say about Greg's STEM work and we talked about his newly acquired support for NewSpace and the commercial space industry. His take away for our discussion was "Always Do Your Best," something he learned from Blair while making this film. Post comments/questions on TSS blog. David Ruck can be reached through the blogs & website or by using astronautmovie@gmail.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 03 May 2014 16:42:54 UTC
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The John Batchelor Show "Hotel Mars," Wednesday, 4-30-14 (11.28MB; download) -- Guests: John Batchelor, Michael Listner, Atty, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: China & space militarization, Russia & ISS, SpaceX DOD litigation, & RD180 engine. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm). For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you.
We welcomed back to Hotel Mars attorney Michael Listner to help us discuss recent statements by the Chinese President indicating that China should pursue the militarization of space. Coupled with this were the new warnings from Russia that our new sanctions against Russia may force Russia to cease working with the U.S. in space. Finally, we talked with Michael about the SpaceX lawsuit against the DOD so that they can break the ULA launch monopoly for Air Force high value satellites. Michael took us through discussion points on each of these issues and from a legal perspective. Please post any comments/questions you might have on The Space Show blog. You can contact any of us through drspace@thespaceshow.com.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Thu, 01 May 2014 15:58:34 UTC
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Dr. Ajay Kothari, Tuesday, 4-29-14 (96.12MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Ajay Kothari. Topics: Rocket reusability, 1st 2nd stage reusability, space tourism, & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed Dr. Ajay Kothari to the show to discuss first stage and full rocket reusability. During the first segment of our 1 hour 44 minute discussion, Dr. Kothari opened with references to his April 14, 2014 Space Review article, "Robust and Reusable." I suggest you read this article and have it handy as a reference as you listen, http://thespacereview.com/article/2490/1. Dr. Kothari explained his model and analysis process to evaluate the costs and economics for rocket reusability options. Our guest goes through his models and scenarios for us, notes that they are only for TSTO rockets (2 stage to orbit), plus he identifies his analysis and software tools. His analysis led him to understanding the importance of the First Unit Production Cost (FUPC) and how this is a killer without a high rocket launch rate. Dr. Kothari then talked about the possibilities for space tourism. As you will hear, he thinks much more of orbital tourism over suborbital tourism which is understandable when you see his costing, price points, percentage of net income being spent on the flight, & a few other parameters. When asked if he thought orbital space tourism would be the economic driver for rocket reusability, he said he thought it had the potential to be a significant contributor to it. Listener Paul asked him about the reusability penalty due to added mass for a reusable rocket. Ajay said they addressed that in their model and suggested a reusable rocket capable of the same payload and destination as an expendable would need to be 2-4 times the size of the expendable! John from Ft. Worth was a caller with many questions but near the end of this segment, he asked for Ajay's thoughts on the SpaceX reusable system and process. Our guest thought highly of the SpaceX effort, process, and concept. We also talked about both flyback and boostback options. In our second segment, Dr. Jurist called in and addressed efficiencies in the learning curve which benefit expendables over reusables though our guest was quick to point out that after decades we still cannot build on these learning curve efficiencies to move further out with expendables in technology and cost reduction. Dr. Kothari and John spoke about the flight rate b/e point which is largely unknown. I then asked our guest about full rocket reusability and his ideas for a hypersonic second stage to orbit and back. Dr. Kothari spent time with us during the balance of our program discussing his concept. We even discussed point to point transportation as a result of this model and he suggested the innovative idea of combining limited orbital space tourism with P to P to make it more acceptable. Don't miss his explanation of this idea.To read the balance of this summary, please visit www.thespaceshow.com or http://thespaceshow.wordpress. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:53:58 UTC
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ISDC 2014, Monday, 4-28-14 (57.24MB; download) -- Guests: Dr. Nicola Sarzi-Amade, John Spencer. Topics: ISDC 2014 Space Conference, speakers, tracks, events, and programs. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed Dr. Nicola Sarzi-Amade and John Spencer to the program to discuss this year's ISDC 2014 conference to be held at the Los Angeles Sheraton Gateway Hotel from May 14-18, 2014. The theme of this years conference is "A Space Renaissance." For more information and to follow our one hour discussion in one segment, visit www.isdc.nss.org/2014. We started our discussion with John setting the stage for ISDC 2014 and today's rapidly evolving space industry. Nicola talked about the 11 tracks which are all detailed on the ISDC website. For full information about the tracks, panels, and track speakers & coordinators, see http://isdc.nss.org/2014/tracks.html. As you will hear, some tracks go for the entire length of the conference, others only for a day or two. Nicola highlighted many of the speakers, track c-chairs, & more. Both our guests stressed the Los Angeles benefits including connections to the film industry and terrific sites to see, several of which are available on ISDC special tours including SpaceX, JPL, and the Griffith Observatory. Nicola also talked about dinner and lunch speakers as well as the morning keynote speakers. Note that while keynotes are in progress, there are no competing tracks going on at the same time. We also talked about awards going to Elon Musk and Gwynne Shotwell. Check out the featured speakers at http://isdc.nss.org/2014/speakers-vip.html and the meal & plenary speakers at http://isdc.nss.org/2014/speakers-meals.html. Conference registration has many options from full conference registration to daily registration. Also, hotel registration is available through the ISDC website. We also learned that the overflow hotel is almost adjacent to the Sheraton Gateway but if you register early, you can still get the Sheraton Gateway at the conference rate. our guests highlighted some of the special areas of expertise for many guests. For example, when talking about Tabor, John discussed Inspiration Mars and the World View program. Near the end, we learned that there is an ISDC Meet UP at the end of the conference Sunday afternoon. If you can stay, don't miss this event. Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog. You can reach John or Nicola through me. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:25:22 UTC
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Open Lines, Sunday, 4-27-14 (121.30MB; download) -- Guest: Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston. Topics: SpaceX reusability, reusability assumption making, fly back boosters, "Space, Inc." Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. Welcome to our Open Lines discussion. During the first segment of our two hour seven minute show, I went over suggested topics including the upcoming SpaceX lawsuit, reusability, the Earth-like planet discovered by Kepler, ISDC 2014 & more. By far, the topic of choice for the entire program was SpaceX reusability though the other topics did come up during both segments of the program. Doug from S. California called first and took up most of the first segment to praise SpaceX reusability, to let us know his thoughts on the subject and the type of assumption making he uses. While I agree on the importance of the success of the SpaceX reusability work so far, I had a departure from Doug on his conclusions and analysis. Doug was unflinching in his approach to the subject, his analysis, his assumption making process, and his conclusions. I repeatedly asked for aerospace engineers to call in to give us their views on the subjects as Doug and I do not work in the field nor are we engineers. Unfortunately, that did not happen until the very end of the show when Dr. Lurio called in about some of the issues Doug and I talked about. So you listen and decide. If you have comments and thoughts about our discussion, post them for all to see and learn from on TSS blog. During our discussion, Kelly, another John, and others sent critical emails to me to read on air. We also talked about pricing strategy, reusable penalties, and Doug's unwavering support in the public discussion comments by SpaceX executives. In the second segment, John called in from Ft. Worth to clarify what he had said a few months back given that Doug recalled the comments and mentioned them during his call. John had much to question about reusability, especially with a fly back booster to a land designation. He talked about economics, reusable launch penalties for added mass and fuel, plus ideas for water landing locations. I repeated the comments offered on launch penalties made by Ms. Shotwell when she was on the show last month. She said the Falcon rockets were designed for reusability so any launch penalties were already factored in and discounted so there were none. We also talked Falcon Heavy & how it might benefit from reusability. Tim called from Huntsville to talk about heavy lift & delays in depot turnaround times. I asked listeners if anyone had seen the Al Jazeera America Fault Line documentary last week, "Space, Inc." I gave my opinion that it was a type of hatchet job on private/commercial space. See the rest of the summmary at www.thespaceshow.com or http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 28 Apr 2014 16:13:08 UTC
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David Meerman Scott & Richard Jurek, Friday, 4-18-14 (69.53MB; download) -- Guests: David Steerman Scott, Richard Jurek. Topic: Mr. Scott & Mr. Jurek's top new book, "Marketing the Moon: The Selling of the Apollo Lunar Program." Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed David Steerman Scott & Richard Jurek to the show to discuss their excellent new book, "Marketing the Moon: The Selling of the Apollo Lunar Program" (www.marketingthemoon.com). This was a 75 minute show without a break. We started out talking about how the two authors met & decided to collaborate in writing this book. As you will hear, both are marketing experts and when they met they wondered why the marketing side of the Apollo program had not been written about so they decided to do it. Not only is their book & this discussion about lessons learned, possible extrapolation points, & seldom if never heard history, it offers answers to many questions asked of guests & listeners on TSS but this time we got some answers that make sense. Our guests talked about the massive NASA PR & outreach campaign launched to sell the early space program, plus the work the contractors did on their own with media kits, training the press how to handle the science/engineering to be able to explain it to us & more. We talked about the time period, the U.S. at the time of Apollo, television then and now as well as newspapers & print media then & now. Our guests also talked about the distribution today for PR & information which is radically different from the days of Apollo. Both our guests described important attributes for a space program to work. Some of these included a quest story, defined mission goals, targeted goals & timelines, the need to avoid mission design creep, the need for a global imperative, & a WHY for the mission that drives the mission. Examples were provided including the Red Bull Stratos jump which did all of the above & the VSE under President Bush which came up lacking. Listeners asked lots of email questions including asking if a mission could sell itself with demonstrated engineering, technology, and science. The answer was doubtful but listen to what our guests had to say about this issue. We talked about missed opportunities over time as great opportunities for audacious and daring projects seldom come around. They talked about a missed opportunity at the time of 9/11 by going for the Iraq War instead of an Apollo like world game changing program, even one not involved with space. Later in our discussion, our guests provided us with one of the best reasons for going back to the Moon & doing space programs, especially for human spaceflight. I'm referring to Apollo changing the world forever for the best by spawning youngsters to create Microsoft, Apple, Intel, etc. Read the rest of this summary @ www.thespaceshow.com or http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 19 Apr 2014 17:18:30 UTC
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