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The Space Show
The Space Show focuses on timely and important issues influencing the development of outer-space commerce, space tourism,space exploration and space development. The Space Show is committed to facilitating our becoming a space-faring nation and society with a growing and self-sustaining space-faring economy. The Space Show also focuses on other related subjects of interest to us all.
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The John Batchelor Show "Hotel Mars," Wednesday, 10-16-13 (6.15MB; download) -- Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. Joan Johnson-Freese, Gordon Chang Dr. David Livingston: Topics: ITAR, NASA & Chinese restriction, Kepler Conference at AMES. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).
During our 11 minute plus discussion, John, Dr. Joan Johnson-Freese, Gordon Chang and I talked about recent restrictions placed on Chinese students and space industry professionals in attending the Kepler Conference to be held at NASA Ames. We talked ITAR in general, the Chinese space program which is not a civil program, ITAR's lack of standards and enforcement, and related issues. We also discussed related national security issues and choices available to NASA based on congressional actions on these issues.
Please post any comments/questions you might have on The Space Show blog. You can contact any of us through drspace@thespaceshow.com.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:52:47 UTC
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Dennis Wingo, Tuesday, 10-15-13 (45.62MB; download) -- Guest: Dennis Wingo. Topics: Space policy & budgets, commercial space & entrepreneurism, wealth creation. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. We welcomed back Dennis Wingo for this 90 minute discussion regarding space policy, budgets, commercial space, space entrepreneurism, cubesats, ISS, and much more. In our first segment, Dennis discussed his recent article, "NASA Will Face Solomon's Choice in 2014" posted on Oct. 2, 2013 at http://spaceref.com/missions-and-programs/nasa/nasa-will-face-solomons-choice-in-2014.html. In this article and in our discussion, our guest focused on the probability of NASA budget cuts in the current environment and the probable impact upon the agency. Thus, NASA or Congress might find that they have to make a Solomon like choice for program funding between SLS/Orion or the ISS. Listeners wanted to know if cutting commercial crew would give NASA sufficient funding for the other two programs. The short answer was no but listen to the full explanation provided by our guest. Dennis then talked about both SLS and ISS and the commercial & entrepreneurial future now developing with ISS with small satellites and space start-ups. READ THE BALANCE OF THIS PROGRAM DESCRIPTION AT WWW.THESPACESHOW.COM OR HTTP://THESPACESHOW.WORDPRESS.COM AS THE SUMMARY IS TOO LONG FOR THIS GIGADIAL SPACE. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 16 Oct 2013 15:23:51 UTC
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Lee Billings, Sunday, 10-13-13 (46.51MB; download) -- Guest: Lee Billings. Topic: Lee’s book and the topic, “Five Billion Years of Solitude: The Search For Life Among The Stars.” Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. We welcomed Lee Billings to discuss his new book, “Five Billion Years of Solitude: The Search For Life Among The Stars.” During the first segment of our 90 minute program, Lee introduced us to the book and its main topic, plus he told us why he wanted to write this book. He talked about his interest in the subject dating back to his childhood. He also wanted to ask and explore questions like what makes exoplanets have a habitable zone, what about parallel universes, the multi-verse, and more. He talked about finding O2 in the atmosphere and wondering if it would be replenished and does that mean life? He talked about the need for big telescopes, in space on and Earth. Listeners asked him several email questions about the Drake Equation, the Fermi Paradox and the Allen Telescope Array in N. California which is part of SETI. Near the end of the first segment, Lee talked about competition in searching for exoplanets. Also, we talked about the American public and policy makers under valuing space and the specific topics of today’s show. Right before the break we took a call from John in Ft. Worth who put the search for life in the context of the laws of physics and the limits of technology. John also brought up human factors, asking how that might impact the search for life. In our second segment, Lee talked more about the Drake Equation and the old TPF program (terrestrial planet finder). We talked about different possible pathways and the work of ESA and JAXTA, Other topics in this segment included cross cultural analysis of who supports space and why, viewpoints other than the NASA viewpoint, then I asked him for his favorite interview in the book. Lee mentioned several people included in the book but settled on Jim Kasting. Listen as to why this person was his favorite. Karen emailed in to ask if he asked his subjects how they thought confirmation of life other than on Earth might impact us here on Earth. He was also asked for his view of progress ten years from now. Our guest had much to say about this time line. In his concluding comments, the question was asked about our being special or privileged. Also, we need better opportunities for better stewardship of our planet. Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. You can contact Lee Billings through me. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:15:04 UTC
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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Tom Olson, Wednesday, 10-9-13 (5.58MB; download) -- Guests: John Batchelor, Tom Olson, Dr. David Livingston: Topics: New Space Business Plan Competition. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).
During our 11 minute plus discussion, John, Tom Olson and I talked about the upcoming NewSpace Business Plan Competition. Check it out at their website, http://newspacebpc.com. Tom went over the general information of the competition, the prizes, John asked about one plan in particular and cubesats, we talked about what makes a business plan competition a professional competition, plus Tom talked about the progress made by the competition over the past years. If you can attend, it is free at Stanford University, Oct. 24, 2013. Please post any comments/questions you might have on The Space Show blog. You can contact any of us through drspace@thespaceshow.com.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:19:37 UTC
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Open Lines, Tuesday, 10-8-13 (62.69MB; download) -- Guest: Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston. Topics: The movie Gravity, NASA budget issues, ISS, Commercial Crew, SLS missions, Orbital, SpaceX and more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. Welcome to our two hour Open Lines discussion program. For the first hour, our discussion topics included the movie Gravity and its special effects plus as said by many calling and emailing on the topic, "really bad orbital dynamics!" We had fun talking about Gravity, the cast, the story line, and how Hollywood often gets the science and engineering wrong. John Hunt also talked about SLS and basic physics, the gravitational constant theory, quantum vacuum thrusters, and he responded to Doug's question about light, mass, and momentum. John also addressed issues with the quantum theory. Dr. Lurio of the Lurio Report was next to phone in after "SLS Man" as he referred to John, cleared the line. As frequent listeners know, Dr. Lurio and John are on opposite sides of the SLS issue which I guess earned John the title SLS Man. Charles, perhaps you will write about SLS Man in the Lurio Report? Charles talked about the recent successes with Orbital and Space X and the attempted return of the Falcon fist stage in the reusability test. Charles talked about the developing nanosat business and the opening up of commercial opportunities on the ISS, all in the context of choices NASA may have to make regarding funding priorities including SLS, ISS, Commercial Crew (see http://spaceref.com/missions-and-programs/nasa/nasa-will-face-solomons-choice-in-2014.html. In our second segment, Doug called in to talk about the Mars SLS option (here is the URL for the story: www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/10/nasa-con-ops-baseline-slsorion-mission-mars). Doug then talked about a cislunar transportation system and how it was the key to expanding space development. The Shackleton Energy lunar development plan came up as did Bigelow space stations. Charles Pooley called in from Las Vegas and guess what!!!! His Microlaunchers book is almost finished and ready for distribution!!!! Now pick yourself off the floor so you can read the rest of the summary and listen to the show but yes, we are all in a daze, a fog and a varying degrees of shock. I told Charles that when it is out as an ebook and a paperback, he can definitely come back on the show and talk about it. He said it should be finished by November or so as it is out to 5 people (I am not one of them) to review and edit the manuscript. All of here at The Space Show wish Charles Godspeed in finishing the book and we hope it meets all of his expectations. Tim was our last caller. He thought that if push came to shove, SLS would be shut down before the ISS. He also suggested a Bigelow station would help enable Shackleton. I gave him and the audience a sort of business perspective on what would be needed in order for a Bigelow station to support and enhance the Shackleton plan. Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:43:56 UTC
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Dr. Gilbert (Gil) Levin, Monday, 10-7-13 (45.24MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Gil Levin. Topics: Life on Mars, Viking 1 and 2, Labeled Release Experiments, NASA & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. We welcomed back Dr. Gil Levin to continue our discussion about Viking 1 and 2, the possibility of finding life on Mars, and the Viking Labeled Release Experiment. In the first segment of our 1 hour 21 minute discussion, Dr. Levin explained why the name "Labeled Release Experiment" was used rather than his first choice, Gulliver. Dr. Levin talked about liquid water on Mars with the findings that there is probably 2% liquid water in the surface area. He compared that to the amounts of water found in in dry soils on Earth which supports microbial life. He also talked about complex organics which he says has not yet been confirmed though he questions why certain Curiosity experiments which he believes have been done have yet to release their findings. Rick was our first caller with questions about water, NASA policy, and green spots found on rock and what that might mean. Gil also spoke about his presentation at the SPIE Conference recently held in San Diego and the panel he was part of with a NASA representative. In the second segment, Gil took a question about the meaning of perchlorates on Mars, he addressed additional questions on liquid water and discussed the recent press releases from NASA and others that there was no methane on Mars and what this might mean for looking for life on the Red Planet. Regarding methane, our guest had much to say and that the findings were not conclusive for all of Mars nor does there have to be methane for organics. I asked him about the timelines involved in Viking 1 and 2 and you might be surprised to learn it was a 20 year process. A listener asked about the odds of finding intelligent life on Mars and our guest said pretty slim. He was also asked about searching for life elsewhere in the solar system and he said Mars was the best choice and listed the reasons why, including the economics of space exploration. A listener asked if Curiosity & other missions were shut down due to the government budget crisis. Doug emailed us that Curiosity was still up and running. Later, Doug called at the end of the show to inquire about possible organic detection using the Rock Abrasion Tool (RAT) from Spirit and Opportunity. We concluded with Dr. Levin suggesting we contact NSA to release information about the green spots on Mars and liquid organic analysis of the surface. Also during this segment and not related to Mars, a listener asked Gil a few questions about his WW2 experience in the Merchant Marine in the N. Atlantic and the Pacific. It was an interesting digression and I still found a way to connect it to space and Mars! Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. You can contact Dr. Levin through his website, www.gillevin.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Tue, 08 Oct 2013 16:37:22 UTC
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Adam Crowl, Sunday, 10-6-13 (43.13MB; download) -- Guest: Adam Crowl. Topics: Adam talks about his chapter, "Starship Pioneers," in the Starship Century book plus interstellar travel possibilities & technologies. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. We welcomed Adam Crowl to the program for a one hour twenty minute discussion on interstellar travel, propulsion and technology potentials. During the first segment, we talked about the book Starship Century and his chapter in it, "Starship Pioneers." the early rocket pioneers and their thoughts on interstellar travel as the idea as it has has been with us and our imagination forever. We talked about theoretical backing, actual capabilities, time lines, and more. Some of the technologies were addressed such as nuclear fusion plus some of the models he showed pictures of in his chapter in the book. We also talked about solar sail and then I asked about human flights to Mars and the Moon as stepping stones for interstellar flight. Antigravity was discussed along with antimatter, lasers, proton beams, and more. Our callers asked about these futuristic technologies and even the types of interstellar missions that could unfold down the road. In the second segment, faster than light travel came up with Dr. Harold (Sonny) White and his work. More calls came in regarding gravitational theory, particle physics, and beam propulsion. Another John called in wondering about the accuracy of today's interstellar speculation. Multi-generational starships were discussed plus Adam made a point saying the profits from the book go to support interstellar research. Check this out at the book's website, www.starshipcentury.com. As the program was ending, Randy sent in a note about the inspirational and motivational value of interstellar travel discussions. Post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above. You can contact our guest through his website and read his blog at www.crowlspace.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:32:17 UTC
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Robert Walker, Friday, 10-4-13 (45.26MB; download) -- Guest: Robert Walker. Topics: Humans to Mars and other destinations in the solar system. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. We welcomed Robert Walker to the program for a 1 hour 28 minute discussion about his analysis, conclusions, and thoughts regarding humans putting colonies on Mars and elsewhere in the solar system. You can read his articles at www.science20.com/robertinventor. Robert has a YouTube channel at www.youtube/marsandspace. I urge listeners to read his articles as they are thought provoking. Though you might not agree with his conclusions, keep an open mind, his articles are very informative and what he has to say should be part of our human spaceflight to Mars discussion. In other words, don't dismiss or blow off what Robert and others are saying about the issues he brought to our attention today. We started the discussion with his August 14th op-ed, "Ten Reasons Not To Live On Mars - Great Place to Explore." Rather than going through each of the ten items, for purposes of this summary and our discussion, we will talk about planetary protection and making sure humans do not contaminate any part of Mars for scientific exploration. Robert referenced the UN as well as NASA and other nation's Planetary Protection Policy against human contamination on Mars and the provisions in the Outer Space Treaty that impose this obligation on all signing countries. Planetary Protection has been discussed before on several Space Show programs but Robert talked about it in the context of why humans to Mars missions will not be allowed and should not be undertaken. He is much more supportive of orbiting missions such as Inspiration Mars or even going to Phobos and Deimos. Most of our first segment is about this subject. We also talked about sample return missions using the ISS or the Moon, exoplanets, lunar settlement, asteroid resources, and space exploration in general. In the second segment, I opened asking him about his short article on the true color of a specifically discovered exoplanet which was cobalt blue as a result of a continuous rain of liquid glass. Robert got several listener emails about planetary protection, Elon Musk and his plans to settle Mars, ways to avoid contamination, and more. He even got a question or two asking why in the literature ETs that have come to other in the stories (maybe), etc. don't seem to have a regard for avoiding contaminating Earth. This was a fun discussion. Another listener asked him a question about his musical and math background and using music to communicate with ET in sci fi movies, wondering if there was any science in fact to the idea of musical communication. Another fun discussion. Jody asked about going to a dry part of Mars with humans to avoid contamination. Don't miss Robert's reply to this scenario. Robert also spoke about teleportation, saying it was key to space exploration. Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. You can email Robert Walker at support@robertinventor.com. His website is www.robertinventor.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 05 Oct 2013 02:10:57 UTC
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The John Batchelor Show "Hotel Mars," Wednesday,10-2-13 (5.93MB; download) -- Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. Bob Richards, Dr. David Livingston: Topics: Moon Express, the Google Lunar X-Prize, Lunar resource development. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).
During our 11 minute plus discussion, John, Dr. Bob Richards and I talked about Moon Express, the Google Lunar X-Prize competition, lunar water and resources, lunar commercial development, and the overall Moon Express plan of action which involves much more than winning the Google Lunar X-Prize competition. We talked about why the lunar southern hemisphere, south pole water, and even their planned sample return mission scheduled for around 2020. Please post any comments/questions you might have on The Space Show blog. You can contact any of us through drspace@thespaceshow.com.
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Dr. James (Jim) Hansen, Tuesday, 10-1-13 (62.00MB; download) -- the Moon, astronaut safety & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. We welcomed Dr. James (Jim) Hansen back to the program to discuss the biography of retired astronaut John Young which Dr. Hansen helped in writing. The book, "Forever Young A Life Of Adventure in Air and Space," is readily available at bookstores and Amazon. Remember, if you go through The Space Show/OGLF Amazon portal (instructions are on the blog, our website & the OGLF website), Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show. The first segment of our nearly two hour program, Dr. Hansen and I started out with an early aviation history overview as I asked our guest about the idea that in space we are as advanced today as was the DC-3 to where aviation is today. This proved to be an interesting discussion, focusing not just on the DC-3 but NACA, the role of government in helping to develop advanced technologies and much more. We then turned our attention John Young. As you will hear, the book we are discussing was a biography written in first person and Jim was asked to help make it so. We talked about Young's focus on both astronaut safety and the NEO threat to Earth. We talked about John Young both on Apollo and his shuttle flights. The subject of space and aviation history came up again and we talked about the Enola Gay and what it took to display it at the Smithsonian as there was lots of opposition to doing so. Dr. Hansen then returned to the John Young book, he told us about his suggestions to turn Young's manuscript into a book & he described working with John and his wife on the project. Space history was also a topic in this segment as we talked about historians and authors often having their work amended by later versions of the history. Dr. Hansen cited some very famous examples when I said I wanted to rewrite my dissertation and correct my errors. In the second segment, Jim was asked about John Young and Mars. Jim said that John's preference was returning to the Moon, plus his focus on his concern for NEOs hitting Earth. But he did support being a multi-planet species. We asked Jim about his preference or comparison of Apollo & the Saturn 5 to the shuttle. Jim told us that John loved the shuttle and was fortunate to fly two shuttle missions. Doug called in and wanted to know Jim's perspective as a historian on the space frontier model common among space enthusiasts. The frontier metaphor sparked quite the conversation with the three of us. Dr. Hansen returned to talking about John Young's interest in returning to the Moon and why. Much was said in both segments about how shuttle should not have been cancelled nor should Constellation have been cancelled. Ben emailed us about astronauts and role models and do they have a responsibility to us in being role models. This also sparked an extensive conversation about astronauts, their role in society, what we make them into. Toward the end, Jim and I digressed into other areas of space, aviation, and political history. See www.thespaceshow.com or http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com to see the rest of this summary. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 02 Oct 2013 15:55:55 UTC
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