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The Space Show
The Space Show focuses on timely and important issues influencing the development of outer-space commerce, space tourism,space exploration and space development. The Space Show is committed to facilitating our becoming a space-faring nation and society with a growing and self-sustaining space-faring economy. The Space Show also focuses on other related subjects of interest to us all.
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Mark Bray, Monday, 12-12-11 (63.21MB; download) -- GuestSearch: Mark Bray. Topics: Aerospace engineering standards. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign. We welcomed Mark Bray back to the program to discuss standards for NASA and the aerospace engineering field. You can also check out Mark's blog at http://braynstorms.com as was mentioned near the end of this two hour discussion. Also, The White Paper referred to in our discussion, "Achieving Innovation and Affordability Through Standardization of Materials Development and Testing" can be downloaded from http://braynstorms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Achieving-Innovation-and-Affordability.pdf. As we began our discussion with Mark, we talked about the situation at Marshall Space Flight Center (MSFC) and Huntsville in terms of projects, employees, moods, morale, etc. Mark was comprehensive in his perspective, even talking about ATK, New Space and government procurement as well as the FAR. Mark then shifted to standards and talked quite a bit about testing methods and why standards are needed. Listeners asked about Space X and standards as well as Dr. Mike Griffin and standards at NASA when he was the administrator. Later in the segment, we backed up and got Mark to explain the problems regarding standards or the lack thereof. Later, a listener asked Mark for some examples. One example he gave us was Henry Ford and standards at the early Ford Motor Company. Toward the end of the segment, Mark started addressing liability issues along with fielding a question about the Dream Chaser vehicle. In the second segment, we talked about government contracts and some oversight. Mark explained testing in greater details and we asked why there would be opposition to standards. Mark also raised the issue of why there was no PE title for aerospace engineers. You might be surprised by what he had to say about this. During this segment, we again discussed liability protection for the developing companies. Mark was very critical of putting energy into liability shielding and protection over standards. I supported Mark in his comments. Make sure you hear this discussion which may prove controversial for many of you. Near the end, I asked Mark about his fellow employees at MSFC and how they processed the economic news regarding the US and from around the world. I wanted to know how the teams understood and applied to their jobs and profession the economic information and conditions in the country. Don't miss his pearls of wisdom closing comments. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 14 Dec 2011 03:15:40 UTC
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Wes Oleszewski, Sunday, 12-11-11 (71.65MB; download) -- Guest: Wes Oleszewski. Topics: Commercial versus government launch vehicles, space policy, civility. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.
The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign. We welcomed back Wes Oleszewski to the show to discuss space policy, commercial as compared to government launch vehicles and much more. Follow his space cartoon Klyde Morris at www.klydemorris.com. You can also read the Aero-News article we discussed, "U.S. Spaceflight: Commercial Versus Federal at www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=b3a012c0-812b-46d7-b58c-fb8959bd3509. Our first segment was about 70 minutes out of this 2.5 hour show. We talked about the lack of civility in the space advocacy/enthusiast community as well as the Kool-Aid and lack of realism in some parts of the advocacy/enthusiast organizations. This applied to space fans as well. This discussion soon gave way to the SLS topic. Our guest was supportive of it but got several listener questions stating why so many objected to it. We talked about its lack of a mission but Wes did define its mission as a preliminary mission in that it was being built for beyond low Earth orbit (BLEO) with the rest to be decided later. I asked our guests about the likelihood of it being built given the track record of NASA and Congress plus OMB in canceling these projects. Wes then talked about the roles of Congress and OMB and our space budget. This brought us to our national spending and budget crisis and the space program in general Other listeners phoned in and emailed us citing the NewSpace perspective on SLS. Don't miss what Wes had to say about this. Next, Space X came up as did the process of taking government money and how that might separate a new "commercial" company from other aerospace contractors. Marshall called us about risk and demo flights, and then we got into a detailed discussion of thrust oscillation (TO) for the Ares 1. We talked about some advocates making ATK into a villain and Space X and other new companies into saints. I had much to say about ATK as being evil and Dr. Jurist called in to again tell what happened when he did real due diligence with ATK on the TO issue. All three of us were very clear and definite in saying the attacks on ATK and other proven companies were unwarranted. In our second long segment, Wes said we should not have retired the shuttle. We talked about Mars missions and the origins of the MRI medical device. Atlanta John called in to be supportive of SLS and its mission. Jim sent in an email explaining why many are supportive of heavy lift but not supportive of SLS. We talked about the lack of public awareness regarding space matters. I then got off on one of my rants about the value of space which took us to STEM education. We again returned to his theme that we in the advocacy/enthusiast community should be far more united. When asked about individual organization goals such as the Moon, Mars, the frontier, etc, Wes clearly recommended we subordinate these interests to the overall good of speaking with a untied voice. For his concluding Pearls of Wisdom, he cautioned us against being space groupies so to speak or running with the cyber pack. We should avoid group think. He said space was a team effort requiring all of us to be involved in supporting the team. If you have questions/comments for Wes, please post them on the blog URL above.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 12 Dec 2011 03:59:44 UTC
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Dr. Jeff Bell from 11/30/11, archived Friday, 12-9-11 (64.44MB; download) -- GuestSearch: Dr. Jeff Bell. Topics: Phobos Grunt mission, space policy, commercial crew, rocket reusability & more. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at
http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign . Please note that this program was recorded live on Nov. 30, 2011 and is being archived today, Dec. 9, 2011. We welcomed Dr. Jeff Bell back to the show for a wide ranging discussion on multiple topics starting with the troubled Russian Phobos Grunt Mission. This Space Show program is vintage Jeff Bell with something to say about most everything, hard hitting, critical, take no prisoners, and of course, thought provoking. Dr. Bell started our discussion talking about the Phobos-Grunt Mission. To put it in context with Russian lunar & planetary missions, he gave us a brief history of the Russian exploration program starting in 1958. This is an interesting history lesson you do not want to miss. In bringing the history current to Phobos Grunt, the problems faced by the Russian program seem a bit clearer. We then talked about some of the many space blog comments with suggestions for rescuing or saving the mission and he totally debunked them. Jeff mentioned shuttle rescues, X-37B rescues, even Virgin suborbital rescues. He also mentioned some of the conspiracy theories out there (he spent more time on them later in our discussion), finger pointing the blame for the mission problems. Next, Dr. Bell addressed the recent SpaceShipTwo drop test that was a problem and he wasted no time in stating what is wrong with the SS2 design as well as what he said was a problematic track record for the project. He also had much to say about the use of composites and fundamental design flaws. Space debris issues came up and Dr. Bell referenced USA 193. Terry called in to ask about the hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide (NTO) or nitric acid on board Phobos Grunt. When we started the second segment, Dr. Bell again went over the conspiracy theories re Phobos Grunt that appeared in some news articles. One he mentioned was the HARP theory which he debunked as well as the biological warfare theory. We then talked about commercial crew and Dr. Bell said Congress does not want it to be successful and he explained why. Near the end of this discussion, Trent called in from Australia. He wanted to know at what point Jeff thought commercial crew was changing from maybe working out to going down for the count. What was the turning point for our guest? During their exchange, Jeff said that space travel was not politically important anymore, instead political pork was the priority. Trent mentioned his blog, QuantumG, http://quantumg.blogspot.com. Check it out for his comments on Space X, Commercial Crew and more. Jeff read his Space X comments and then started discussing the Space X reusability plan. As the program ended, we talked about the JWST and I asked Dr. Bell what part of the space program he liked, if any. He did have something he liked, the science and robotic missions. If you have a comment/question for Dr. Bell, please post it on the blog URL and I will make sure he sees it.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Fri, 09 Dec 2011 17:07:20 UTC
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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars Segment, Wednesday, 12-7-11 (10.47MB; download) -- Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston, Dr. John Jurist. Topics: Bone loss issues for short and long duration spaceflight. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at
http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign. As many of you know, I have been doing a weekly segment on the John Batchelor Radio Show with Mr. Batchelor on various space topics. Sometimes I appear with John as the only guest on the segment, at other times I co-host the segment with John and bring on board an expert in the subject being discussed. Mr. Batchelor has given The Space Show permission for these segments to be archived on The Space Show site and blog. Mr. Batchelor calls these segments "Hotel Mars" and they are targeted toward his significant live and podcast highly educated general audience. Find out more about the excellent John Batchelor Show and listen to his archived segments at http://johnbatchelorshow.com. You can hear the live stream of his show if it is not carried live in your radio market at www.wabcradio.com/article.asp?id=531472. For this segment of Hotel Mars, we discussed bone loss in space and the use of the class of drugs known as bisphosphonates in treating bone loss issues. This discussion was prompted by various news reports such as this one: www.dispatch.com/content/stories/national_world/2011/12/06/osteoporosis-drugs-helped-astronauts-scientists-say.html. Our special guest was Dr. John Jurist and I co-hosted the segment with Mr. Batchelor. During our eleven minute segment, we addressed bone loss issues for both short duration and long duration spaceflight. We talked about the use of bisphosphonates, the benefits and the risks associated with them. We also addressed artificial gravity, issues of both lunar and Martian gravity, and the seriousness of the bone loss issue as well as the other human factors issues primarily for the longer duration voyages. Post any comments/questions that you might have regarding this John Batchelor Show segment on The Space Show blog URL above. We thank Mr. Batchelor for allowing us to archive this segment on The Space Show website and blog. Please note that the copyright to this material remains with The John Batchelor Show. Any and all uses of this material must be approved by John Batchelor.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Thu, 08 Dec 2011 17:03:15 UTC
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Nicholas (Nick) Johnson, Monday, 12-5-11 (50.39MB; download) --
Nicholas (Nick) Johnson. Topics: Space debris issues. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at
http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign. We welcomed Nick Johnson back to the show for a comprehensive discussion on space debris issues. We started out with an assessment of the space debris problem as of today. Here, Mr. Johnson talked with us about the impact of sun on space debris through both the solar max and the solar minimum. I referenced the NRC report and asked if concurred that we were at the "tipping" point in the debris issue. We talked about cleaning up debris and our guest said that various options were being looked at but we were not there yet. Nick mentioned a few possible technologies but that funding was needed, demo projects needed to be carried out, and that international cooperation and funding consortium ideas were being explored. Space attorney Robert called in regarding some of the legal issue needing to be addressed based on the Outer Space Treaty, the Liability Treaty and other legal documents. Perhaps the biggest legal issue is that of needing permission from the owner of the hardware to retrieve or do something with it so that it does not add to the debris problem. We did talk about mitigation strategies for newer satellites and I inquired why the 25 year boundary for keeping the satellite from becoming debris. Jerry called in and wanted to know about the possibility of magnetic cleansing and suggested VASMIR. Another listener asked about satellite upset events that happen when a satellite gets hit with really small flakes of debris causing the satellite to reboot. Before the break, we talked about the return to Earth of the Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite (UARS) and Nick talked about tracking the return of objects. Don't miss this discussion. I also asked him about Burnt Frost, the U.S. satellite shoot down in 2008. We started the second segment with a listener question about possible titanium tanks on Phobos-Grunt and reentry concerns. Nick said that Russia said the main tanks were aluminum and that Russia should be addressing reentry concerns. We talked in general about the problem of hydrazine and it remaining frozen during reentry. Another listener asked about plutonium on board spacecraft and the Russian accident in Canada with Cosmos 954. Another listener asked about cubesat and possible debris issues. Space tugs for debris removal were discussed as were Earth-based lasers. International cooperation was discussed and of course ITAR came up. As the program was ending, we talked about NASA's reentry plans for both the ISS and the Hubble Space Telescope. Nick also clarified the law for us regarding keeping pieces of satellites or debris that hit the Earth as they remain the property of the launching country. Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog URL above.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:03:42 UTC
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Bob Lancaster, Sunday, 12-4-11 (45.58MB; download) -- Guest: Bob Lancaster. Topics: Suggestions on space policy leadership and space advocacy leadership. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at
http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign. We welcomed Bob Lancaster to the program to discuss space advocacy and policy leadership ideas. Mr. Lancaster started our discussion with an explanation and short backgrounder of his interest in space and its connection to his profession in military police and security work. Based on his interests and background, along with the leadership and management training he has had in the Air Force, Mr. Lancaster sees ways that such leadership and management training could benefit the space cause and especially the advocacy community. Bob then talked about the need for strategic planning and excellent communications. With regard to communications, he made a point about making sure people outside the "choir" were being reached and included in the discussion. The tendency within the space community with our blogs, conferences, etc. is to talk too much to each other and not enough with the people outside our community. Preaching to the choir is not helpful. Bob said that understanding the need to communicate outside our group is fundamental to exercising better leadership and management within the space advocacy community. As the first segment ended, Bob said there were three main reasons for human spaceflight and exploration: 1) To become a multi-planet species were anything to happen to the home planet; 2) Our space efforts enhance our communities here; 3) Planetary protection/self-protection regarding NEOs. As we started our second segment, we followed up on Bob's earlier suggestion of using a consulting or outside strategic planning group to assist in the leadership changes being talked about. He said it was important for this planning company to be independent of the space community. Don't miss his discussion on this important point. Another listener asked about the need for charismatic leadership and Bob said being able to communicate and move the population was important. Others asked him about the Space Guard idea and he said that at some point something like the Coast Guard in space would be needed. Another listener asked about our differences over issues such as SLS. Bob talked about finding common ground to speak with a more united voice to the public. In our final segment, John asked Bob what he thought the ideal space policy might be given the country being bankrupt or at least on the verge of it. Bob's reply was very good as he talked about making the case for growing the economy through space rather than fighting over how to divide up a shrinking pie or tax more to fund different parts of the stagnant pie. Listen to what he said and tell us on the blog what you think. We then talked about space being the leader or one of the few leaders in the country/economy that can take us into a growth future. At the end of the program, we explored Bob's thoughts regarding forming a separate military service out of Space Command which is currently part of the Air Force. We also talked about national security space and Bob suggested that our civil space program was very much a part of our national security. At the end, we talked about space as a priority within the budget given areas likely to be cut in pending budget cuts. Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog URL above.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:16:08 UTC
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Dr. Roger Launius, Friday, 12-2-11 (50.89MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Roger Launius. Topics: National Air & Space Museum at the Smithsonian, Mars in our culture, Russian & U.S. Mars missions. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign. We welcomed back Dr. Roger Launius to the program. His blog which we talked about during the interview can be seen at http://launiusr.wordpress.com. We started our discussion with the mention of his recent blog post, "The Lure of the Red Planet: Early Flyby Missions to Mars." Dr. Launius went through a short history of Soviet/Russian attempts to go to Mars as well as those of the U.S. in recent years. His blog article contains a more comprehensive listing of these missions and is a good resource for this information. We talked about private enterprise doing Mars missions and our guest said the business case would have to close for that to happen and that we were not there yet. I asked about cultural drivers concerning our interest in Mars. I also inquired about the symphony by Gustav Holtz, "The Planets" and his "Mars, Bringer of War." Dr. Launius talked about Mars in our culture going back to H.G. Wells, others in the early 1900's, science fiction literature, as well as early astronomy. Another of his blog posts we explored was his comparison of Sputnik to 9/11 as there were parallels and similarities. Don't miss this interesting discussion. In our second segment, we talked about the Smithsonian getting the Discovery Space Shuttle, its eventual display, and the disposition of Enterprise which is currently at the Smithsonian. Dr. Launius explained how they will display Discovery to preserve it as close to a real time flying shuttle as possible for historical purposes. We learned that visitors will not be able to walk through it. He does explain the display plans in full, plus he talks about getting the shuttle from KSC to the museum near Dulles Airport and then getting Enterprise to New York as it is to be displayed at the Intrepid Museum. Roger received listener questions about the display of the Enola Gay B-29 which is at the Smithsonian as well as SpaceShipOne. Listeners also asked for his thoughts on Phobos-Grunt and its loss. Our guest pointed out it was the 5th loss of a Russian mission in a year, pointing to some definite problems in the Russian space industry. Some of the problems he described regarding the Russian space industry sounded similar to what is happening with our own space workforce. Commercial space and the private sector came up for discussion with Roger saying that a big difference is that private enterprise will operate their vehicles, not the government. Dr. Launius was asked about space tourism and if it was possible to evaluate any type of market based on visits and comments to the SpaceShipOne exhibit. We talked about STEM educational issues, protecting the Apollo lunar landing sites as historical sites, Pluto in the Smithsonian & the New Horizons Mission. As our program ended, we talked about Plutonium 238 and RTGs for space missions., And a listener wanted to know about the plausibility of one way manned Mars missions. Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog URL above. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:14:46 UTC
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David Reneke, Tuesday, 11-29-11 (43.50MB; download) -- Guest: Dave Reneke. Topics: Space in Australia, a different view of U.S. space policy, astronomy, SETI. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at
http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign. We welcomed Dave Reneke to the program to discuss all space issues from the Australian perspective. Find out more about Dave, his space and astronomy work, plus sign up for his free newsletter at www.davidreneke.com. Starting out, I asked our guest about the Perth radio telescope used by ESA that seems to be the only location making some contact with the Russian Phobos-Grunt mission. After talking about Perth and its geography, our guest mentioned the competition for the Square Kilometer Array Telescope (SKA) competition which has been narrowed down to the Australian location or a location in S. Africa. Dave mentioned the SKA telescope and its capabilities throughout our discussion. As we learned, the Perth area is actually quite quiet regarding radio noise and a good location for the radio telescope array. Dave received email questions about the space awareness level of the average Australian as well as for his students. Having been to the U.S. several times, our guest said that there was not much difference between Australians and Americans when it comes to space awareness and knowledge. We also talked about commercial space, space tourism, and our current American space policy. Josh asked about the difference in the night sky from the southern hemisphere view as compared to what most of us see here in the northern hemisphere. Dave gave us some good comparison notes which I think you will find interesting, especially about the Southern Cross, some of the planets, the Big Dipper, Orion (the Swordsman in Australia), and even the Milky Way. We talked about national television coverage in Australia of the recent MSL launch, and then some more about issues facing the U.S. space policy of today. In our second segment, Dave got a listener question about Australian concern and coverage for space debris falling to Earth and he reminded us about Skylab coming down in Australia and told us some interesting stories about it. I asked him about the Air Force UFO article on his website. He had much to say about it and his previous work as a UFO investigator. We then switched to talking about deep space, Pioneer 10, and SETI searches. We mentioned the potential water planet discovery, Gliese 586g, and much more. Dave was asked when the effects of our sun cease and a deep space mission starts having effects from a different solar system or from being in deep space. Dave talked about a region of turbulence hitting Pioneer 10 and suggested deep space really starts when our solar system effects end. He referenced the heliosheath. We also talked about the Voyager Interstellar Mission. Dave told us a few stories about Apollo 11 that he learned from his day long meeting with Buzz. He concluded with a long term hundred year vision suggesting that eventually there will be travel beyond the speed of light with routine space travel. Post your comments/questions on the blog URL above. Dave can be contacted through the Contacts page on his website.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 30 Nov 2011 17:09:25 UTC
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Matthew Kleiman, Monday, 11-28-11 (49.29MB; download) -- Guest: Matthew Kleiman. Topics: Protecting Apollo artifacts on the Moon, space legal & property rights issues. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign. We welcomed Matthew (Matt) Kleiman to the show to discuss his recent TSR article, "Protecting Apollo artifacts on the Moon, written on November 7, 2011. You can read the article at www.thespacereview.com/article/1961/1. We began our discussion by describing the Apollo artifact situation, explaining ownership of them per the Outer Space Treaty in that there is no space salvage law. He said NASA recently issued guidelines for protecting the Apollo artifacts given the likelihood that private companies and possibly other nations might get to the sites, disturb or alter them, or even contaminate a few of the ongoing experiments that are still functioning. As you will hear, the guidelines are not enforceable, they are voluntary, and you can find them at www.collectspace.com/news/NASA-USG_lunar_historic_sites.pdf. We spent a major part of this segment talking about the guidelines and related issues. Also discussed were liability issues and the problem with determining negligence regarding space activities. A listener asked about the timing of the NASA guidelines announcement given that at least for now, we are unable to return to the Moon. Matt then separated out robotic missions to the Moon as compared to humans returning to the Moon. Our discussion also took us to the issue of property rights on the Moon and elsewhere in space. We started the next segment by asking Matt about the Moon Treaty and its status. We talked some more about salvage law for space and addressed the issue of why the US prefers to use international law for protecting the sites rather than doing it unilaterally as that raises potential sovereignty issues posed the by the space treaties. Phobos-Grunt came up with regards to space debris issues. During our space debris discussion, we talked about liability, the fact that an individual cannot bring an action other than through his/her country (the State Department for U.S. citizens) and more. Matt talked about and described the Reasonable Person Doctrine. A listener asked about the Google Lunar X-Prize and Matt briefly talked about the Draper programs with two teams. He also told us about the long standing Draper Labs participation in our space program and that Draper Labs was the first non-government Apollo team member. Another listener asked about the common heritage of mankind language in the Moon Treaty and to a lesser degree in the Outer Space Treaty. Toward the end of our discussion, we talked about the challenges for making new treaties and the concepts/programs being used to accomplish nearly the same as a treaty but using a process other than a treaty. If you have questions/comments, please post them on The Space Show blog URL above. Matt can be emailed at matthew.kleiman@gmail.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:07:39 UTC
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Marcia Smith, Sunday, 11-27-11 (43.43MB; download) -- GuestSearch: Marcia Smith. Topics: U.S. Space Policy and budget issues. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign. We welcomed back Marcia Smith of SpacePolicyOnline.com to discuss the recently passed Minibus FY 2012 NASA budget as well as some of the issues for space policy as a result of the failure of the Supercommittee. Here are some specific URLs from SpacePolicyOnline.com that you will find useful for this discussion as well as understanding what is going on: 1) Re the Minibus: www.spacepolicyonline.com/pages/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2008:minibus-signed-into-law&catid=67:news&Itemid=27; 2) Re the Supercommittee: www.spacepolicyonline.com/pages/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2016:the-day-after-whats-next-for-nasa-after-the-supercommittee-failure&catid=67:news&Itemid=27; 3) The NASA FY 2012 Budget: www.spacepolicyonline.com/pages/images/stories/NASAs_FY2012_Budget_Request.pdf. We started our discussion with the statement that we are in "unchartered territory." Ms. Smith described the Poison Pill which goes into effect from 2013-2021 regarding pending budget cuts which will be significant but are not clearly understood at this time. There might be a 7-8% across the board cuts. The cuts also impact discretionary spending, not just defense or some entitlement programs. Ms. Smith explained this to us so don't miss the discussion. NASA's FY 2012 budget was down about 4% from what the President sought. Commercial crew was cut by about one-half to $406 million. Marcia confirmed that thought is being given to funding only one commercial company due to the reduction in funding. We also discussed the current pricing for buying rides on the Soyuz to the ISS as compared to the current pricing quoted for the Space X Dragon. Other topics in this segment includes SLS, MPCV and crew transportation in general. We talked about funding for the SLS and the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) in the FY 12 budget. Ms. Smith reported to us that NASA Administrator Bolden recently testified that the three top priorities for NASA were SLS?MPCV, ISS, and the JWST. Marcia was asked about the OMB and their role in the budget process, specifically concerning future Mars missions. In our second segment, we talked more about the Minibus bill and some of the specific funding project within the FY 12 budget. Dave called in with a most interesting perspective on the issues from within NASA, asking us to focus on more than just the budget lines. Don't miss what Dave had to say. As we approached the end of the program, we talked about DOD and National Security Space Policy using NOAA and the DOD NPOESS satellite programs as an example of the challenges ahead. Please post your comments and questions on The Space Show blog URL above. You can email Ms. Smith through www.spacepolicyonline.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:49:34 UTC
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