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Dr. Bryan Laubscher, Sunday, 9-12-10 (83.96MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Bryan Laubscher. Topics: A comprehensive look at the space elevator. Please note that you are invited to comment, ask questions, and rate this program on the new Space Show blog, http://thespaceshowoutsidethebox.blogspot.com. We welcomed back to the program Dr. Bryan Laubscher to update us on the recent space elevator conference and happenings within this industry. This is a two hour forty-five minute program with lots of listener questions and challenges, both by email and using the toll free line. The program is divided into two segments, the first segment lasting for about the first hour. General themes were present throughout the program so rather than breaking the show down by segment, I will tell you what we discussed. We were updated with developments from this year's conference. We learned about special conference guests Yuri Artsutanov and Jerome Pearson, the incredible climber contest and more. Visit The Space Elevator blog for more information, www.spaceelevatorblog.com. Also visit the website for the Spaceward Foundation at www.spaceward.org and the site for the International Space Elevator Consortium (ISEC) at www.isec.info. Discussion topics covered the progress made with the NASA Challenge climber contest, the thermal conductivity of carbon nanotubes, the markets for carbon nanotubes, and eventually the economics of the space elevator. Scattered throughout these discussions, Jack asked about Professor Richard A. Muller at Berkeley who has advanced the theory that we are residing in a binary star system with a red or brown dwarf that may, at some point, push asteroids from the Oort Cloud into the inner solar system. Do not miss what Bryan had to say about this. We talked about nuclear propulsion and alternatives to chemical rockets. The economics of the space elevator were challenged by several listeners in hard hitting phone calls during the second segment. As the transcontinental railroad was brought up, I referred everyone to last Friday's program with Berin Szoka and the economic paper he recommended we read on the transcontinental railroad at http://fee.org/nff/the-myth-of-the-robber-barons. The discussion evolved with multiple callers about launch rates, Falcon launchers and Space X, launch costs and their drivers, markets, and the future for the elevator. Sparks flew among Kelly, Charles, and Bryan! At one point John joined the callers to provide current Falcon launch costs from the Space X website and to opine on the value of space elevator research which was under attack by some of the listeners. Other problems were discussed re the elevator, specifically lightening strikes, orbital issues, and payloads. I realize this is a longer than usual Space Show program, even longer than most shows that run to two hours or slightly longer, but it is an important, must hear program and we thank Dr. Laubscher for staying with us to be responsive to the listeners. At the end of the show, propellant depots were put into the mix by John in Atlanta and in responding to John, Bryan also talked about elevator orbits and how the elevator puts a payload in LEO. The book, "The Space Elevator," will be on the OGLF Amazon book partners page later this week, www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/books. If you have a question or comment for Dr. Bryan Laubscher, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I'll forward it to him. Don't forget you can post your comments on the blog address above and I will make sure Bryan sees them. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:43:03 UTC
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Berin Szoka, Friday, 9-10-10 (57.26MB; download) -- Guest: Berin Szoka. Topics: Internet and space analogies for market competition and policy. We welcomed back Berin Szoka to discuss with us the similarities of both internet and space policy for future development. Please remember that you can comment and rate this program on the new Space Show blog at http://thespaceshowoutsidethebox.blogspot.com. During our discussion, our guest referenced a paper he co-authored, "Cyber-Libertarianism: The Case for Real Internet Freedom. You can download this paper at http://techliberation.com/2009/08/12/cyber-libertarianism-the-case-for-real-internet-freedom. During our first segment, Mr. Szoka started off by telling us about the upcoming COMSTAC Sept. 17, 11AM EDT telecon on space debris and traffic management. The public is welcome to participate by calling 605-475-4825, Access code 976883#. Contact Mr. Szoka for more information if interested. Berin then started addressing space law and we discussed the new Bob Zubrin idea of the Transorbital Railroad. Berin then began a discussion concerning government regulation, the old Interstate Commerce Commission (ICC), and the role of government in the railroads and with the Kelly Airmail Act of 1925, applying both to internet and space regulation. From this point in our discussion, Berin then looked at the long, comprehensive history of government regulation through today to the internet and then space policy. He described Internet and Space Exceptionalism, suggested the best role for government and its application to enable commercial and market development, and suggested positive actions for government to take with regards to regulation. In our second segment, Todd from San Diego asked how we could have a meaningful debate given the state of our educational system, the lack of a real fact based media, and the amount of time it takes to research and do due diligence in searching the internet for accurate facts on important stories and events rather than relying on traditional and new media. Berin had much to say to Todd on this issue. A few minutes later, Bryan called in to say that he did not think we could move forward by using the same technology to go to space and we needed new breakthrough technology to LEO to really see change take place. Berin agreed and had much to say about this issue as well, including our risk averseness which he said was a real problem. During this segment, Berin went into more detail regarding space libertarianism and space exceptionalism. He said we often must select a course that is far from perfect, that is, we must choose that which is "less bad." Berin also talked about the track record of government operating transportation systems, including the space shuttle, as compared to private sector operations and control As we neared the end of the program, Berin said he writes articles at http://techliberation.com for those of you wanting to follow his work on these subjects. At the very end of the program, he talked about vision and suggested the book "The Vision of the Anointed" by Thomas Sowell. If you have questions or comments for Berin Szoka, please email him at berin.szoka@gmail.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:46:59 UTC
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Dan Adamo, Tuesday, 9-7-10 (67.33MB; download) -- Guest: Dan Adamo. Topics: On orbit propellant depots and associated launch and flight dynamics. We welcomed Dan Adamo back to The Space Show to talk about on orbit propellant depots. Please remember that you can post comments, your own material, and even rate this show at the new Space Show blog, "The Space Show's Way Outside The Box Ideas And Plans Blog" at http://thespaceshowoutsidethebox.blogspot.com. Please use it. Our show was more than two hours and divided into two segments. During our first segment, Dan introduced us to on orbit propellant depots and started out by describing the ISS as a propellant depot. Dan then proceeded to discuss possible depot locations and geometric constraints in servicing and working with depots in various locations. During this first segment, we had lots of email and chat questions from listeners (the phone line only opened up in the second segment), addressing libration point locations, lunar depots, LEO depots, Sun-Earth system depots and more. Dan took us through the orbital and flight mechanics so essential to making a depot location useful and economic. Also in this discussion, Dan talked about launch seasons and launch windows, explained the differences, and told us that for the Earth-Sun system, the launch season and window were essentially the same. He also introduced us to external factors impacting launch windows such as range safety issues and weather, along with launch turnaround issues. As you will hear, understanding the orbital and flight dynamics impacts the location of the depot and can easily make or break it as an acceptable location. Another issue that he brought up was space traffic management for a specific depot, something we have never done and cannot do as of today. Toward the end of this segment, nuclear propulsion was discussed and we asked Dan to prioritize space policy issues were he the man in charge. As we started the second segment, we opened the phone lines to listeners. Our first caller, John from Atlanta, wanted to know more about a lunar oriented depot. In talking about lunar depots as compared to LEO depots, Dan took us through what was involved in the Apollo lunar landings so we could better understand the issues with lunar and other depots. Other listeners had heavy lift questions, suggesting a depot was a better investment than heavy lift rockets. See what you think after listening to Dan on this subject. Regarding LEO depots, Dan talked about the need to be able to predict the orbital plane, a problem for a LEO depot. Lots of questions came up about using the ISS location for depots and the penalty paid to get there. The idea of replication was discussed, for example having 28 ISSs on orbit for lunar access. Dallas called in and talked about depots needing three things, costs, performance, and orbital alignment. Depots were viewed as one possible facilitator for helping to drive up launch rates and other things. At the end, John Jurist phoned in to ask Dan and Dallas to list as a closing statement, their priorities for space policy. Listen to what each said and then John listed his three or four priorities as well. You can ask questions or comment on the blog above or send your comments to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward them to Dan Adamo. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:13:03 UTC
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Taylor Dinerman, Sunday, 9-5-10 (49.67MB; download) -- Guest: Taylor Dinerman. Topics: Military space reorganization and policy, NASA and U.S. space policy. We welcomed back Taylor Dinerman to update us on important changes happening with the reorganization of military space within the Air Force, along with updates pertinent to the ongoing space policy debate. Please remember that you can comment on this program and rate it by visiting the newest Space Show Out of the Box blog at http://thespaceshowoutsidethebox.blogspot.com. During our first segment, Taylor talked to us about the present structure of military space and its brief history to let us know how we got to where we are today. He then outlined many of the changes that are taking place and have already taken place, especially with regards to AF acquisition. In making his points, Taylor mentioned many of the military and intelligence programs and how they might be impacted by the reorganization changes. We also talked about the motivation behind the changes, expected outcomes, and more. As we started our second segment, we continued discussing the organizational changes and the impact upon space systems, potentially including GPS, military communication satellites, NOAH, NASA, and other programs. We talked about the role of budget tightening in this process and how these changes originated. We also talked about a fifth military service, U.S. Space Command. Later in the segment, we switched to discussing space policy. Here, Taylor focused on the compromise bill coming from the House of Representatives and the impact this might have on the possible reelection of the Arizona Democrat who is the Chairwoman of the Subcommittee on Space and Aeronautics , Gabrielle Giffords. Taylor also talked about FY 11 outcomes and what might actually carry over to FY 12. The COTS program was discussed and we talked about Dragon by Space X and Orion. Later in this discussion, when asked about the future of the human spaceflight program, Taylor talked about the possibility of not being able to use the term astronaut given we might not have an American launcher for sending astronauts to space. When asked if using these terms was that important, he said it was. Listen and see what you think. We discussed heavy lift and the return to the Moon. At the end of the program, Taylor received another listener question, this one asking him if we cooperate with other nations regarding military space. Don't miss what Taylor said about this cooperation. If you have questions or comments for Taylor Dinerman, please send them in care of me at drspace@thespaceshow.com. Don't forget to post your comments and more on the above listed Space Show blog. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:38:29 UTC
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AIAA Space 2010 Interviews, Friday, 9-3-10 (76.68MB; download) -- Guests: Josh Hopkins; Larry Price; Steve Harrington. Topics: Near Earth Asteroids, Orion Crew Capsule, space policy, aerospace engineering, academics, turbo pumps, pistonless pumps. This Space Show program consists of three interviews back to back separated by about ten plus seconds of silence. Josh Hopkins was interviewed on Tuesday, August 31, Larry Price was interviewed on Wednesday, Sept. 1, and Steve Harrington was interviewed on Thursday, Sept. 2. As you will hear, the Harrington interview was a change of pace and topic discussion from the first two interviews. With Josh Hopkins, we talked about visiting Near Earth Asteroids with the Orion Crew Capsule, why, how it could be done, the orbital dynamics of such a visit and more. Josh also talked about the Lockheed Martin Plymouth Rock Deep Space Asteroid Mission. You can find the Plymouth Rock material and information as follows: The Plymouth Rock material mentioned by Josh can be found as follows: The study report is here:
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/assets/ssc/Orion/Toolkit/OrionAsteroidMissionWhitePaperAug2010.pdf
The briefing charts are here:
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/assets/ssc/Orion/Toolkit/OrionAsteroidBriefingChartsAug2010.pdf
The brochure is here:
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/assets/ssc/Orion/Toolkit/OrionAsteroidMissionHandout.pdf. In the next interview, Larry Price updated us on the Orion Crew Capsule development from his last discussion with us which was Sept. 2009 at Space 2009 in Pasadena, CA. Larry clarified the status of Orion for us with regards to the ongoing space policy discussion, we talked about Orion capabilities, using it for the ISS, deeper space missions, etc. We talked about the crew escape system tests at White Sands, NM and how the system worked. Larry updated us on the flight testing schedule which would likely use a Delta 4 Heavy but that Orion would also be designed to use the Atlas 5. I asked him about comparisons with the EELVs to the original Constellation hardware. We talked about policy, Congress, funding, and more. In the last interview with Dr. Steve Harrington of Flometrics, we got an update on efforts to market his pistonless pump, why a launcher might want to consider this pump over a traditional turbo pump and the differences between the two. Steve shared his opinions of the aerospace policy debate and the industry based on his experiences with it over the past several years, both as an aerospace engineering professor at UCSD and one working on hardware in the industry, plus his many space conferences which he has regularly attended. If you have a question or comment for any of our guests, please direct them to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward them to the guest of your choice. Remember, you can comment on this program on the new Space Show Way Outside The Box blog at http://thespaceshowoutsidethebox.blogspot.com.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:26:59 UTC
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Open Lines, Sunday, 8-29-10 (65.72MB; download) -- Guest: Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston. Topics: Space advocacy and enthusiasts, the new Space Show feedback blog, ET & Dr. Stephen Hawking, NewSpace, New Think, space markets. We started the Open Lines show with several announcements including the announcement of a new Space Show blog for listener feedback and ratings for each program. You can access the new blog, The Space Show’s Way Outside The Box Ideas And Plans Blog at http://thespaceshowoutsidethebox.blogspot.com. During the announcement of this new blog, I explain how it was intended to be used. Instructions are also on the blog but essentially once a program is archived both on The Space Show website and this blog, your comments are welcome. During the announcement section of the show, I also read a magazine article introducing us to the term “New Think,” the I read part of an email from a listener in New Zealand about this thoughts on the recent Thalia program. Note that the desire for civility in space discussions extends even to New Zealand and this actually became a discussion topic throughout our program today as several callers took issue with the tone and nature of some of the discussions with space advocates and others within the industry. Kelly was our first caller. He talked about his days working on the DCX and his thoughts on the big aerospace industry. We ended our first segment addressing space markets. We started off the second segment with an email comment from Jim in Denver relating to the recent program with Dennis Wingo as the guest. This resulted in another theme discussed throughout our program, the idea of entrepreneurial companies taking government money rather than going all private. Most supported what Dennis said and we all thought that there was a risk for private companies continuing to take government for their operations. Charles from Mojave called in to give us a report on Mojave as well as to stress the need to start small and gradually ramp up, his Microlaunchers concept for those familiar with Charles on The Space Show. Charles talked about the upcoming NASA NANOSAT Challenge and we also talked about SBIR and SBA grants and funding for space ventures, plus some of the challenges in doing business in California. In our third and final segment, Gary called the show and talked about our lacking a historical perspective on how transportation systems are developed. He suggested we start with what we can do, LEO and the Moon, and then build upon that base. This brought us to a discussion about how many people consider that which is possible in the future as real now. One of our listeners sent in a note asking “where was the gold in space?” This was in reference to the apparent absence of space markets to be exploited at this time. We concluded with questions about funding space given our economic condition and referring again to some possibilities that were discussed during the recent Dennis Wingo program. If you have comments or questions for any of the callers or participants in today’s program, send your note to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to the person you designate. Remember, you comments and ratings and more are now welcome on the new Space Show blog listed above. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:23:42 UTC
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Dr. Joe Rosen, Friday, 8-27-10 (44.79MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Joe Rosen: Topics: Science, physics, comprehending the whole of the material universe, space issues, and more. We welcomed for the first time to The Space Show Dr. Joe Rosen to discuss his new book, "Lawless Universe: Science and the Hunt for Reality." You can purchase this book on the OGLF website through Amazon and Amazon will make a contribution to OGLF/The Space Show. Please use www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/books and select this title. Dr. Rosen is a deep thinking scientist so make sure you are comfortable and alert for listening to this 90 minute program. Our first segment started by asking Dr. Rosen why he wrote the book and to provide us with an overview of the book. The basic premise of his book and our discussion today was that science cannot fully comprehend the universe. To fully understand what Dr. Rosen talks about, I do urge you to not only listen to this full program but to read his book. Dr. Rosen talked about cosmology, theories, and distinguished real science from pseudo science. This discussion took us into the area of the use of language and the need for it to be precise in science and other disciplines. In our discussion about the limitations of science, we talked about multiple dimensions and much more. Our second segment started off with a discussion about our universe being unique. This was a basic thread and theme for the entire segment and balance of the show. Dr. Rosen explained how this challenges our basic understanding of what cosmology really is. A listener question took us into the realm of possible life beyond Earth. Dr. Rosen pointed out that being a unique universe did not limit the possibility of biological life throughout our universe. This entire discussion regarding our being a unique universe is important and its a must listen to segment of this interview. Toward the end of this segment, we talked about the unique universe might mean for science study as well as careers and funding. In our third and final segment, we started out by discussing perceived and objective reality. As you will hear, science cannot and does not meet our objective demands which strongly suggests the existence of a deep level than perceived reality, perhaps even beyond our understanding. A listener asked if this implied the existence of God. See what you think of what Dr. Rosen had to say about this. Later in the segment, we talked about popular scientific discussions, terms such as the Mind of God which he said were metaphoric, not to be taken literally. We discussed expectations within the general public and the non-science public and what this means for our overall scientific knowledge and expertise. This brought up cultural issues as well. Following this discussion, we talked about the difference between objective and subjective realities and the blurring of the lines between the two. I suggested why I think the lines get blurred and Dr. Rosen shared his thoughts on this issue as well. If you have questions or comments for Dr. Joe Rosen about his book, this program or other science questions, please email them to me at drspce@thespaceshow.com and I will forward them to our guest. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Fri, 27 Aug 2010 22:17:07 UTC
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Dennis Wingo, Tuesday, 8-24-10 (45.01MB; download) -- Guest: Dennis Wingo. Topics: Private space capital, visionaries, and private spaceflight. We welcomed Dennis Wingo back to The Space Show. Rather than describe this program by its three segments, I want to talk about the overriding theme of the show which focused on the need to have space visionaries and to attract and invest private capital in private space ventures. In having this conversation, Dennis also talked about the risks for companies in taking public money. We talked about the potential for a new congress to be deficit focused and in this economy, that might translate to a FY 11 NASA budget around $14 billion rather than the talked about $19 billion. Were that to happen, what would that mean for the private and entrepreneurial space companies, for Space X and others? Dennis talked about strategies for dealing with this type of potential scenario. We had lots of listener questions about Space X, government space, heavy lift, private space, and more. We talked about the consequences of having Congress go to continuing resolution were that to happen, about space advocacy and the space enthusiasts, and how all of us can play a more constructive role toward private space capital and attracting the space visionaries. One of the business and financial concepts that Dennis talked about since several listeners brought up ventures like asteroid mining or SSP as the answer to problems mentioned on this show was the concept of the time it takes to get to the first revenue dollar from a space project in comparison to what has to be invested up front. Dennis talked about this first dollar to revenue issue as its a huge issue that impacts space business ventures. Our discussion covered many other important details, approaches, and reality based facts. This is a no nonsense discussion that was and is extremely important and most timely. For those of you interested in private space and what space can do for humanity, you must listen to this interview with Dennis Wingo. Dennis took on the hard issues and choices facing NewSpace and the commercial and private space communities, offering us important and valuable ways to move forward toward our goals. If you have any questions or comments for Dennis Wingo, please email him at wingod@skycorpinc.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:58:19 UTC
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Timoth Dooley, Monday, 8-23-10 (45.23MB; download) -- Guest: Timothy Dooley. Topics: Victorian Space Age. We welcomes for the first time to the show Tim Dooley to talk with us about the Victorian Space Age. While this program was in three segments, this description will not be by segment as the majority of our topics crossed segment lines. Tim makes models of space and space related vehicles mentioned in stories by Jules Verne. He takes liberty with his designs, often bringing in some additional aspects not specifically part of the Verne story line or Victorian period. In addition to the models, as you will hear, each model has a first person story for its use and action during the Victorian period, i.e. the Victorian Space Age. When you hear Tim tell the story, its as if you are actually living the story in the Victorian Space Age time period. For those of you on Facebook, you can see 15 pictures of his models and its those pictures from the Facebook page that we talked about during the show. Please go to your Facebook page and then search for Timothy Mills Dooley and you will come to his page. If you would like to send a question or comment to Tim Dooley, please do so using mdooley4@hotmail.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:04:32 UTC
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Professor Joanne Gabrynowicz, Sunday, 8-22-10 (55.63MB; download) -- Guest: Professor Joanne Gabrynowicz. Topics: Space law updates, U.S. Constitution and space law, commercial space. We welcomed back Professor Joanne Gabrynowicz to update us on space law issues of which there were many. You can find her paper, "One Half Century and Counting: The Evolution of U.S. National Space Law and Three Long-Term Emerging Issues" that we discussed during the first segment at http://hlpronline.com/2010/06/gabrynowicz_space. The Res Communis blog that our guest referred to is at http://rescommunis.wordpress.com. The Space Law Center at Ole Miss can be found at www.spacelaw.olemiss.edu. In Segment One, we started out with space history which is the first part of the Harvard Law Journal article referenced in the first link above. We covered many important topics including Article VI of the Outer Space Treaty (OST), space as a global commons, jurisdiction, and more. In this segment, commercial space companies were discussed and we looked at what constituted a commercial venture. Legal licensing regimes were introduced, defined, and explained. Industrial policy for U.S. businesses was a discussion topic which you will definitely want to hear as part of our commercial space component. In Segment Two, we led off with a discussion about jurisdiction followed with a discussion about the Permanent Court of Arbitration drafting new Optional Rules for Arbitration of Disputes Relating to Outer Space and using satellite imagery as legal evidence. Toward the end of the segment, questions came up about the U.S. Constitution and its interpretation. This is a must hear analysis regarding the constitution as a living document and strict constructionist doctrine. In Segment Three, Joanne talked about the Space Law Archives at Ole Miss and very important additions to the collection. We talked about the need for a technical background in space law and our guest had much to say about this and various backgrounds useful for studying, understanding, and implementing space law. The subject of intellectual property for space came up as well as what might have to happen for China to become an ISS partner. Our guest listed two things so be sure to listen to this discussion. ITAR was discussed as was the entire issue of the U.S. government and others regulating space field and space industry. Toward the end of the program, property rights, liability, and accountability were introduced via listener questions as examples where there might be too much government regulation for space. Joanne referenced Article 6 of the OST in her reply to the listeners. Again, don't miss what our guest had to say about these important issues as she did not agree that space was too heavily regulated. See if you agree with what she said on this issue. Close to the end of the program, we talked about treaty law as the supreme law of the land and what that actually means. We concluded today's discussion with my asking Joanne if she had ever visited the home of Elvis in nearby Tupelo, MS. If you have a question or comment for Professor Joanne Gabrynowicz, please visit the Space Law Center website at www.spacelaw.olemiss.edu/Gabrynowicz.html. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:55:45 UTC
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