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The Space Show
The Space Show focuses on timely and important issues influencing the development of outer-space commerce, space tourism,space exploration and space development. The Space Show is committed to facilitating our becoming a space-faring nation and society with a growing and self-sustaining space-faring economy. The Space Show also focuses on other related subjects of interest to us all.
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Open Lines, Sunday, 9-20-09 (72.54MB; download) -- Guest: Open Lines. Topics: Augustine Commission, human spaceflight, safety, NASA and the large aerospace industry as compared to the entrepreneurial developing industry, and human suborbital flight. This 2 hour 24 minute Open Lines program addresses three central themes: human spaceflight safety and program development, Augustine and space policy, and how best to start developing an alternative space industry by following the existing path including suborbital space tourism or doing something entirely different such as launching many hundreds of small satellite payloads to jump start the industry. The program began with my making a series of announcements including an upcoming joint program with AIAA doing an in-depth analysis of the Augustine report, a suggestion to listeners to read a public email and testimony before Congress on Augustine by Dr. Mike Griffin, and an essay on our space program by Dr. Paul Spudis. All of these items can be found at http://www.spaceref.com. I also reported on several programs at AIAA Space 2009 in Pasadena, including the opening discussion where the issue of new launch companies being able to fly NASA astronauts was discussed. Don't miss this report. Later in the program, I talked about other presentations at Space 2009 including an informed consent and limited liability presentation on the realities of large companies working with smaller companies and a financial assessment of the suborbital space tourism industry. I hope to be able to bring both of these AIAA speakers to The Space Show. We had several callers talk about the small, incremental approach to space development as articulated by Charles Pooley. Several of the callers challenged some of Charles's thinking such as Kelly, Dave, and Andrew who also sent us a photo of his home designed and made super garage tool shop. If you want to see that photo, send me an email and I will send it to you with Andrew's permission. Others participated through email and chat from Canada and across the U.S. including Montana. Caller Dave suggested we adopt the term “human suborbital” rather than suborbital tourism and this brought us to talking about existing suborbital sounding rockets, the market for such rockets, the existing and potential flight rate, and of course the existing as well as future market to drive human suborbital flights. Despite this being a longer than usual program, it has very interesting and passionate participation on the general themes mentioned above. Its an Open Lines program you do not want to miss. This is a discussion you do not want to miss. If you have questions or comments for any of the callers or participants in this program, please send your note to me on their behalf at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to them. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:59:29 UTC
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Laurence Price (Orion CEV), Friday, 9-18-09 (37.12MB; download) -- Guest: Laurence Price. Topic: Orion CEV, human spaceflight, spaceflight safety. This is a special Space Show interview from the AIAA Space 2009 Conference held at the Pasadena Convention Center, Pasadena, CA. I sat down with Mr. Price for this interview in the Sheraton Hotel. It runs for approximately 75 minutes without a break. If you want to learn more about the Orion CEV, please visit the Lockheed Martin Orion website at http://www.lockheedmartin.com/products/Orion/index.html. Some of the topics discussed with Larry Price included changing Orion to a four person crew from a six person crew, using Orion for visiting the ISS, the Moon, a NEO, or even Mars. We discussed flexible layouts and designs including using different types of heat shields depending on the Orion mission. We also talked about using Orion on an EELV in case the Ares 1 program is cancelled as a result of the current space policy review underway. I asked Larry many questions about costs, cutting costs, astronaut/crew safety, and commercial spaceflight. We talked about the high cost of human spaceflight in government programs and how to lower that cost. We talked about government space program safety requirements versus what might unfold in the commercial markets that would be less costly. Another important topic we discussed was educational outreach and Mr. Price shared with us several of his own experiences going into schools to talk to young students. He then told us about their staffing and what they found when they advertised for qualified people to come work on the Orion project. You might be surprised when you hear this terrific story! Other topics included landing the CEV on land rather than on water, the crew escape system, lunar and technical capabilities of Orion as it’s not anything like the old Apollo capsule. In fact, we spent considerable time going through the new technology and systems used in Orion and I am sure this will interest you. If you have any comments or questions for Mr. Price or Lockheed Martin regarding Orion, please send them to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward them for you to get a response. I certainly want to thank Larry Price, Linda Singleton, and Kevin Barre for making this interview possible.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:25:05 UTC
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Ares 1 SRB Engine Test, Tuesday, 9-15-09 (72.78MB; download) -- Guests: Tim Lawrence, Carry Ralston, other ATK and NASA officials. Topic: Ares 1 solid rocket motor test, Ares 1 rocket. This is a series of taped interviews starting with the first attempt to do the Ares 1 five segment static SRB rocket test on August 27. The test was aborted at T-20 seconds due to an improperly working Thrust Vector Control ground control piece of equipment. You will hear two interviews with Tim Lawrence, Assistance Chief of Engineering for Ares 1 from the Marshall Spaceflight Center and also Carry Ralston who is the VP of Space Launch at ATK. As the test was aborted, what follows next is the joint ATK-NASA press conference following the aborted test. I realize the press conference audio is not of high quality as all I could do was hold the microphone up in the air but you should be able to hear it OK. Pay attention to the press/media questions and responses. The second part of the program starts with the second test effort on Sept. 10, 2009 which was successful. We lead off with the NASA-ATK press conference explaining in detail the problem that aborted the first test. Again, listen to the media questions. The media was then taken to the rocket and I did follow up interviews with Tim and Carry. Next is the countdown for the test and the actual successful test. You will hear the rocket engine noise from where the media was stationed, about 1.5 miles from the actual rocket. At the end of the program we have the ATK-NASA press conference going over the successful test. Again, press conference audio is not of high quality given the way I had to record the program. Each segment is separated from the previous section by about 7 seconds of dead air. If you have questions or comments about anything you hear on this program or want to send a comment or question to any of the people interviewed or you heard in the press conference, please send your note to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will do my best to forward your note and get you a response.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 16 Sep 2009 05:28:02 UTC
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Dr. Eligar Sadeh, Monday, 9-14-09 (44.01MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Eligar Sadeh. Topics: 2009 National Space Forum, space policy and strategic planning, space globalization, human spaceflight. Dr. Eligar Sadeh was the guest for this show to discuss the recently concluded 2009 National Space Forum which was held in Washington, DC from September 1-2, 2009. Dr. Sadeh started the first segment with an overview of the National Space Forum, a discussion of the need for space deterrent strategies, and our current lack of strategic thinking in the space arena. We both noted as did the Forum just how dependent the U.S. is on space and how the need to have effective strategic space policies is essential. We discussed treated, space technology, diplomatic and political solutions, and more. In the second segment, we continued talking treaties and the need for space to be open to all. In fact, one of the strategies talked about throughout the Forum was that since the U.S. requires open space access for its own needs, we must insist on the same open space access for all nations. This is an underlying element of our national space policy. Dr. Sadeh then summarized some of the Forum's discussion on collective security regimes in space. He went over some of the discussion pertaining to treaties versus codes of behavior or rules of the road. In the third segment, we continued discussing space strategies and diplomacy. Eligar received many questions about diplomacy versus projecting space leadership and superiority. See what you think of these different approaches. Toward the middle of this final segment, Eligar brought us current on his space consulting business, Astroconsulting International. He described some very interesting projects that his company is working on in addition to the upcoming space security workshop he is planning for early next year. If you have comments or questions for Dr. Sadeh, please send them to him as astroconsultinginternational@gmail.com .
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:33:16 UTC
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Declan O'Donnell, Sunday, 9-13-09 (45.00MB; download) -- Guest: Declan O'Donnell. Topics: space governance, United Societies in Space, science development. Declan O'Donnell returned as The Space Show guest to discuss space governance and the unique concept of the Space Authority Bank as a way to finance space development. During Segment 1, Declan provided us with the basics for this discussion starting with the five United Nations space treaties, the basics of space governance, and a comparison of the U.S. concept of space as a frontier as contrasted to the Canadian experience of frontier development with their Mounties. We talked about our society being more risk averse to creating another "Old West" type of experience with regards to space development. Declan then described the United Societies in Space (USIS) as a supplemental treaty system. Please listen to this discussion and see what you think. Through space governance, an Authority is created and he explained the Authority as something similar to the UN creating another nation. That nation would then create money as would the Authority. The Authority would back its money with space assets. Listen to the explanation and let Declan know what you think of this idea. In Segment 2, we talked about the need to advance more in our scientific knowlege to be better prepared to implement the Authority. Declan thought the timing was still off and that going slow was just fine. We discussed the time table and our readiness throughout this segment. Declan also explained the Regency and the issue of chance or serendipity in terms of scientific progress came up and Declan acknowledged that this could impact the time line in a very positive way. In Segment 3, the Regency or ROUSIS was discussed and explained in detail. He also theorized that after 9/11, space development, even attendance at space conferences took a nose dive and was only now starting to recover but the global economic conditions were now a strong negative factor to consider. When asked what we need to move forward, Declan said more science, heavy lift vehicles, and lots more education. Toward the end of the show we talked about barter clubs as barter is an essential part of creating the currency for The Authority. If you have comments or questions for Declan, you can reach him on his toll free number, 1-800-632-2828. If you want to email him, please do so through me but be advised he is not as prompt with email responses as we would like. I strongly recommend you use the toll free number to contact him about space if you have an interest in space governance, USIS, or if you have a comment or question for him. You can always send an email comment or question for him through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:14:29 UTC
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David Hook, Saturday, 9-12-09 (61.05MB; download) -- Guest: David Hook: Topics: Aviation and space security, corporate espionage, space tourism, no fly lists. David Hook returned as our guest for this Space Show program to discuss airport, aviation, general aviation, and space security post 9/11. In Segment 1, we started out by calling your attention to the series of interviews that Mr. Hook has done and does with people in the aviation and space industry. You can see these interviews at http://aviationandspacetv.com/aboutus.aspx. This led us to a discussion of the application of business fundamentals to the space industry. Both David and I talked about this but I also brought in some of my observations from having visited ATK to see the Ares 1 SRB static engine test. Mr. Hook took the opportunity to talk about a much needed ITAR reform and then we talked about corporate espionage in the aviation industry and in other industries. David related the corporate espionage to ITAR issues but we also talked about corporate espionage and security issues among American companies. As Segment 2 started, we continued with space security and commercial space as well as space tourism although as Mr. Hook pointed out, today most of the space security is focused on protecting the uninvolved public and property. We talked about the application of the Do Not Fly list to space travel and David made some interesting points so don't miss this discussion. We also talked about potential regulatory turf battles between TSA and the AST regarding space travel. Again, don't miss the discussion. As to security in general, he said that since 9/11, western societies in particular have had to learn and absorb a security consciousness. In response to a question about TSA searching grandmothers, he said everyone has to be treated as an equal, otherwise the terrorists would be able to exploit the weakness . In Segment 3, Mr. Hook spoke to us about the three elements of physical security which include consequences, threats and tactics, and vulnerabilities. We talked about the dollar value for risks as this allows the risks to be prioritized. Listeners asked him about the security tests that always seem to find breeches and security holes. You will want to hear what Mr. Hook had to say about this, security tests in general, and the need for them to be transparent, even when security is breeched. He brought to our attention recent efforts to require commercial aviation pilots to have an ID badge for each and every airport they use but this is under protest. He felt the need for identity security was less in general aviation. You will want to hear his reasoning on this. In Segment 4, we talked about security protocols now in place with private aircraft, pilots, airports, etc. In fact, insurance companies often require security enhancement for the planes, cockpits, and airports before they issue coverage. Listener Reda brought up the number of airports in the US and out of 20,000, only about 450 have TSA protection. Reda also asked about helicopter safety. Mr. Hook said that if some of the measures now being considered by congress are actually passed, it could be economically devastating for the general aviation industry. Its important to hear what Mr. Hook had to say about the regulatory potential facing this industry. The AOPA was brought as was a program that the organization supports, the Air Watch Program. Another listener brought up issues such as the Osprey and how vehicles like this may be designed for safety from the start. In his concluding remarks, David Hook stressed the need to run airports as a business and he said that people are the bottom line to security be it for aviation or space. If you have questions or comments for David Hook, please send them to him at david.hook@spaceflightsecurity.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:19:45 UTC
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Dr. James Dewar, Tuesday, 9-8-09 (46.65MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. James Dewar. Topic: nuclear rocket, breaking the taboo, private space development and industrialization. Dr. James Dewar was our guest to discuss his new Apogee published book, "The Nuclear Rocket: Making Our Plane Green, Peaceful and Prosperous." This book and his earlier book, "To The End Of The Solar System: The Story of the Nuclear Rocket," will soon be on the One Giant Leap Foundation book page as an Amazon partner. Buying these books from the One Giant Leap Amazon link allows Amazon to financially support The Space Show. Please see .www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/books.htm. In Segment 1, Dr. Dewar provided us with an overview of the nuclear rocket and its history. We talked about the potential, its high ISP, and the basics of how the nuclear rocket works plus why its safe. Our caller asked about the old records and what was available to use in starting the program again versus what would have to be done from scratch. As you will hear, lots of files and records were lost but there still exists data from Los Alamos and other research locations and companies. I asked Dr. Dewar what would be changed with modern engineering and he suggested many thing but focused on slush hydrogen. We also talked about the Rover/NERVA project the tensile strength of graphite and how that was improved upon. In this segment, Dr. Dewar introduced us to the idea of breaking the taboo and using the nuclear rocket to launch to LEO from Earth. He talked about the lifting potential of the nuclear rocket based on 1968 Rocketdyne tests. In Segment 2, our caller asked Dr. Dewar to explain his Space Charter Authority (SCA) concept. Don't miss this discussion. We also asked Dr. Dewar how the nuclear rocket led to peaceful and green programs. Again, don't miss this discussion. Later in this segment and at the start of Segment 3, the issue of fear and concern regarding nuclear came up, especially in the context of the nuclear bomb/weapons programs with Iran, North Korea and others. Also in the final segment, Dr. Dewar stressed the need to do the necessary studies as part of the process to move forward with developing the nuclear rocket program including the policy programs essential to supporting it. In this segment, Jim described the NASA free launch program as an incentive to involve lots of people and inspire the public to participate and benefit from the nuclear rocket program. We talked about a literature search for nuclear rocket papers in recent conferences which Dr. Dewar pointed out usually addressed going from LEO to Mars. Breaking the taboo to go from Earth to LEO with the nuclear rocket is the program Dr. Dewar outlines in his book. If you have questions or comments for Dr. Dewar, please email them to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward them to him. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:23:12 UTC
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Dr. Haym Benaroya, Monday, 9-7-09 (45.42MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Haym Benaroya. Topics: Lunar settlement and structures, Augustine Panel, human spaceflight, return to the Moon. Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University was our guest for this program to discuss his two new books as well as lunar settlements. His books will be out around the first of the year are "Lunar Settlements" published by CRS Press and also "Turning Dust to Gold" published by Praxis-Springer. The latter book presents a futuristic view on lunar settlements and human exploration and settlement of the Solar System, covering engineering, science, commerce, space elevators, biology, and more. During the first segment, Dr. Benaroya talked about both books and agreed to join us again on the show when both are available, probably early in 2010. We asked Dr. Benaroya why his Dust to Gold book takes place in 2169 and learned that it was to honor the 200th anniversary of man walking on the Moon. During this segment, we started talking about the Augustine Panel and the future of human spaceflight and the Moon, Mars, or a NEO, a theme that reoccurred throughout today's program. In the second segment, Marshall asked about lava tubes for an underground lunar settlement, but Dr. Benaroya, while agreeing they would be good if they existed on the Moon suggested that we would use surface structure for perhaps up to 80 years to develop the needed tools and lunar infrastructure to go underground. Do not miss this discussion. Dr. Rowe sent in a note about lunar dust and Hepa filters. You will not want to miss the discussion about the ultra fine dust on Earth and on the Moon and the filters needed to control them. I asked Dr. Benaroya about inflatable versus rigid structures on the Moon. He said even an inflatable would have to be rigid once it was inflated in order to survive. This is another must hear discussion. During this segment, we also talked about funding lunar missions and space programs and how Congress might divert funding to other projects. This remains a risk as you will hear. In the third segment, we continued talking about inspiration, STEM education, Augustine, and human spaceflight. Haym provided us with a 2020-2025 time line for establishing a realistic lunar settlement if we started today. He also fielded questions about heavy lift and said it was necessary to get the needed mass to the Moon. When asked about on orbit capabilities and smaller rockets, he wondered aloud about our on orbit construction capabilities. Toward the end of the final segment we talked about space policy and visionary leaders. Like many guests, Dr. Benaroya thought that the policy side was much harder than the technical or the financial side regarding human spaceflight and going to the Moon. He also said he did not think we were ready to be able to do a human to Mars mission. You can learn more about Dr. Benaroya's work and you can download many of his papers by visiting his website at .http://coewww.rutgers.edu/~benaroya/. You can send your email questions or comments to him at benaroya@rci.rutgers.edu. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Tue, 08 Sep 2009 02:16:53 UTC
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Brian Shiro, Sunday, 9-6-09 (43.29MB; download) -- Guest: Brian Shiro. Topics: FMARS, Mars analog simulation, life on Devon Island & in the Arctic Circle. Brian Shiro was our guest today to discuss his recent experiences at the Mars Society Flashline Mars Arctic Research Station on Devon Island in the Canadian Arctic (FMARS). Brian has blogged his experiences and you can read about them at http://www.astronautforhire.com as well as the FMARS site, which is http://www.fmars2009.org/ . In the first segment, Brian provided us with an overview of FMARS, Devon Island, Haughton Crater, and the nearby NASA Ames HMP project. Brian explained in part why the area is such a good analog site for Mars including the fact there is no nitrogen in the soil, no life, the cold temperature, etc. We talked about the polar bears in the area, guns and dogs for polar bear defense, and then Brian described a typical work day. If you ever wanted to know what it’s likely going to be like in an isolated habitat or Martian simulation, listen to this show as Brian Shiro does an excellent job taking us through the entire experience. In the second segment, Bryan told us about the science gypsum experiment that they did, heating gypsum to turn it to water. He explained the relevancy of this as gypsum is present on Mars. Don't miss this discussion. In response to one of many listener question, he told us what they did on July 20 to honor the 40th anniversary of Apollo. Don't miss this either. Also in this segment, Brian went into detail about the EVAs, simulated spacesuits, and more. He also talked about other science projects and medical tests done for this season's FMARS group. ITAR issues were discussed given that FMARS is in Canada and we talked about how the FMARS participants distribute their work and science writings/papers to the larger academic and conference communities. In the third segment, we started off talking about the voluntary communication delays at FMARS which simulate reality on Mars. The participants agree to a twenty minute delay on all communications. Listen to this discussion. We also compared FMARS to the Mars Society Desert Research Station in Utah as there are some similarities, but differences as well. A listener asked about psychological issues for the crew in keeping with known issues that exist with long duration spaceflight. You do not want to miss the information Brian shared with us on this important topic. Toward the end of the program, a listener asked if FMARS was green in its energy usage and used solar. As it turns out, it’s been considered, but for now they still use diesel generators. Joe who was on the FMARS team this year and will return next year sent in a message that there is an effort to get a wind turbine up on the ridge as there is plenty of wind at Devon Island where FMARS is located. Brian described recycling, water usage, garbage prep and as you will see, the FMARS project has a very high conservationist attitude and approach. If you have questions for Brian Shiro, you can use the contact link on his website, http://www.astronautforhire.com/2006/12/contact.html . In addition, you can email him at brian.shiro@gmail.com .
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:16:29 UTC
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Dr. Pat Hynes, Friday, 9-4-09 (61.17MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Pat Hynes: Topics: International Symposium for Personal and Commercial Spaceflight (ISPCS), commercial human spaceflight, flight safety. Dr. Patricia (Pat) Hynes returned to The Space Show to discuss the upcoming ISPCS for this year, Oct. 21-22, 2009, in Las Cruces, NM. To learn more about the Symposium and for travel and registration information, please visit http://www.ispcs.com . In the first segment, Dr. Hynes provided us with an overview of this year’s ISPCS and we spoke about the symposium which is entitled "Delivering on the Promise of Spaceflight for Mankind." Pat introduced us to the flight safety panel and provided us with the parameters of flight safety for commercial spaceflight that would be examined by the panel. We talked about the keynote by Gary Payton, Deputy Undersecretary of the Air Force, Space Systems, and we discussed the conference hotel and online registration. Please note that the block of rooms being held at Hotel Encanto in Las Cruces expires on Sept. 11. In the second segment, we continued talking about conference logistics and facilities, and then focused on the OPS Panel presentation. Pat mentioned that 60% of operating costs are spent on ground operations and that the panel would examine that fact. We continued with the topic of human spaceflight and the proper scaling of it to meet the needs of the developing commercial industry. You will definitely want to hear what Dr. Hynes said about the extremes of both sides of this issue. A listener asked about the business focus of the symposium and if that had something to do with the fact that Pat has her PhD in Business Administration rather than in a science or engineering field. Pat discussed her perspective in some detail, do not miss it. In the third segment, Dr. Hynes mentioned the Augustine Panel programming on the agenda. She also said there would be a panel discussion noting that 40% of the people who have signed up for a ride on Virgin are pilots. This panel, led by NASA's Michael "LA" Lopez-Alegria, will look at the pilot experience relative to suborbital spaceflight participation. Point to Point travel was also mentioned in this segment as well. Dr. Hynes then referenced the Imaginvoa survey that will be part of a panel discussion. Another panel looks at technology and engineering to see what can enable research universities and the forward progress of this industrial development. Toward the end of this segment, we talked about the Ice Hotel in Sweden and applied some lessons learned with the Ice Hotel to commercial space development. The Ice Hotel will be part of a symposium presentation. In the fourth segment, we learned that Dr. Alan Stern will direct a panel to examine the suborbital future extending beyond space tourism to include the university research and development market. In the spaceport section of the program, not only is New Mexico's own Spaceport America discussed, but there will be representatives present from Florida, Sweden, and Abu Dhabi. Toward the end of the program, Dr. Hynes reminded us that there is an Early Bird Registration that closes soon, that attire can be casual, and that the money from this symposium all goes to students as this is a workforce development program. If you have any questions or comments for Dr. Pat Hynes or about the ISPCs, please use the Contact page on their website, http://spacegrant.nmsu.edu/ispcs/contact_us.html . Or you can email your comment or question to nmsgc@nmsu.edu . If you do this, please reference The Space Show in the subject line. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 05 Sep 2009 02:42:13 UTC
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