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Dr. John Olds, Friday, 12-11-09 (109.85MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. John Olds. Topic: Point to Pont space transportation. Dr. John Olds, Executive Director of the FastForward Study Group, was our guest today to talk about point to point space travel or high altitude and very fast transportation. In our first segment, Dr. Olds defined point to point high speed transportation. He talked about being able to go west, not just east, about using Great Circle Routes, and various city pairs that his group has been studying. We also talked about ballistic trajectories as well as partial and orbital trajectories and going west from the Northern Hemisphere. Toward the end of this segment, a listener inquired about the Blackswift project that was cancelled. Dr. Olds further commented that the NASA focus has clearly moved to human spaceflight, but that the Air Force was still working on some projects, including X-51. As we ended this segment, our guest pointed out the new commercial push, including a push for the RLV which would be a very positive addition to point to point high speed space transportation. In our second segment, we talked about the supersonic business jets under development, how they minimize the sonic boom, their problems, speeds, and the regulatory environment that today would prevent these vehicles from flying across the United States and other areas. Dr. Olds explained some of the differences in flying supersonic, exoatmospheric and through space, ballistic and orbital. The FastForward group is looking at the various technologies and regulations that exist and would need to be modified to facilitate point to point high speed travel. In our third segment, we continued talking about supersonic business jets and learned that their estimated cost was between $80 and $100 million. The estimated cost for a hypersonic was $325 million. Development costs for the SST biz jet was around $2 billion while for the hypersonic, the development cost was estimated at $5 billion. Wealth building and job creation came into the picture given development of these projects have the potential to include public money or a public private partnership. Later in the segment, Dr. Olds suggested a commercial transportation ticket might cost upwards of $6,000 and for sending a package on one of these vehicles for same day or really quick delivery, it might be as much as $800/kg. Dr. Olds talked about the need for an arms length market study to confirm the existence of commercial markets in these areas. A listener asked about competition from video conferencing and we talked about the market for the need for face to face meetings. As we moved into the fourth and final segment, Dr. Olds pointed us to the FastForward website,
www.spaceworkscommercial.com/projects/fastforward. Make sure you read the White Paper entitled, "Getting Faster," www.sei.aero/eng/papers/uploads/archive/FF_Getting_Faster_Oct2009.pdf. Once on their website, you will see many other reports and documents that are available and that you will find interesting. Dr. John Olds talked about debris patterns and fields for various spaceports and again stressed the need for a market study. Toward the end of the program, he talked about ITAR issues and customs requirements that probably need modification upon landing in another country. If you have a question or comment for Dr. John Olds, please contact him at john.olds@sei.aero.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:50:50 UTC
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Peter Sage, Tuesday, 12-8-09 (51.71MB; download) -- Guest: Peter Sage. Topics: Space Solar Power (SSP), the business case for SSP. Peter Sage, a leading and well-known international entrepreneur and a Director and Principal of Space Energy was a guest for this show from Dubai. You can find out more about our guest and his company by visiting www.spaceenergy.com. Our almost two hour program was divided in two segments but because our discussion points and themes crossed over the segments, this review will not be broken down by segment. There was only one break leaving the last segment about 75 minutes in length. As we started the program, Mr. Sage put forth the case for SSP and its potential. He talked about his preliminary due diligence and the feedback received from many different sources which indicated that the technology was not the issue. Instead, closing the business case was the issue. Do not miss this discussion. As he discovered, the key economic factor, the key economic metric was the kilogram per kilowatt ratio which is impacted by launch costs. As you will hear, by going to Thin Film Photo Voltaics, they improve efficiency, lower mass, and increase deployment size, thus they effectively lower launch costs. We continued this discussion into the second segment because we asked Peter what to took to make a quality presentation before business people to obtain capital. I urge all listeners to pay careful attention to what Peter Sage had to say about this. Its instructive for us all. In addition, his focus on solid due diligence, the business and management team and the understanding that he is working an energy company that uses space rather than a space company is very important. Also note that Peter did not come to this as a space person or a true believer in SSP. Again, this is an important distinction. Terrestrial power issues were discussed, political policy and social engineering were discussed, as well as solid economics and market solutions. Timing for SSP deployment was a focus of this discussion and as you will hear, all important. In the context of timing, his response to listener questions was on the basis of buying down the risk and cost reduction versus market and early competitive advantage. At the end of this program, Peter asked a series of questions that you will hear along with my response, all of which lead one to a rational conclusion that SSP is an important part of our future energy mix, not the entire part as Peter Sage certainly says we need all tools of energy development to address the energy issues we as a global society are going to be facing in the future. In fact he references the excellent energy study done by Mike Snead who spoke about his study on The Space Show on Jan. 9, 2009. You can hear Mike's interview about his comprehensive energy study at http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1086-BWB-2009-01-09.mp3. When visiting www.spaceenery.com, subscribe to their free newsletter. You can also hear Peter's TED presentation which is well worth your hearing, plus there are other important SSP technical and business presentations and materials on this website. If you have a comment or question for Peter Sage, you can use the contact page at http://www.spaceenergy.com/Terrestrial/contact or send your note to our guest per the address on this page. Please reference The Space Show in the subject line. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:37:29 UTC
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Samantha Snabes, Jason Aranha, Monday, 12-7-09 (43.84MB; download) -- Guests: Samantha Snabes, Jason Aranha. Topics: Go Boldly Campaign, human spaceflight, NASA. Our program today focused on the Go Boldly Campaign started by young aerospace industry professionals to urge our elected representatives to provide increased funding for NASA's human spaceflight programs. Our guests, Samantha Snabes and Jason Aranha, both part of the Go Boldly Campaign in Houston, were with us to talk about this program and their respective perspectives on space development, NewSpace, NASA and our civil space program, and human spaceflight. In our first segment our guests told us about the Go Boldly organization that has about 45 members. You can visit their website and send a letter to your member of congress by going to www.goboldlynasa.org. Copy and paste their letter for your own letter to your representative. We talked about space exploration as well as the NASA science missions. Listeners asked our guests many STEM education related programs. Each guest was asked how they got into their space career. As you will hear, Jason came from Brazil where he said there was not much of a space awareness in his country so his interest came about once he was in the U.S. Samantha said she was from an underserved environment but met key people that helped her along the way with her education and more. I am sure you will find their stories fascinating as they demonstrate how one can go for a space career regardless of their environment or background. In segment two, we talked about the outreach efforts of our guests, both with the Go Boldly program as well as in their own lives to promote and discuss space development. Samantha and Jason talked about speaking with Members of Congress, even visiting their offices, along with their student outreach efforts. In segment three, we led off with our guests telling us about their social networking with Facebook and Twitter. If you are interested in following Go Boldly with these networks, note their instructions for finding them on each service. Jason spoke about the focus of NASA to explore and go to points that the private sector cannot go to at this time. Samantha talked about routine space missions which is what Earth to LEO is becoming and we all agreed that NASA should be focusing on the missions that are not routine. We talked about Ares 1 and also converting EELV to human spaceflight so you will want to hear this discussion. As the segment came to its close, Jason talked about his vision for space and Samantha talked about space benefits. NewSpace and suborbital space tourism came up and as you will hear, our guests stay in touch with and are very supportive of NewSpace. In fact as you will hear, Samantha's boss was at Mojave for the unveiling of SS2 today. If you want to find out more about Go Boldly or send an email question or comment to either of our guests, do so using info@goboldlynasa.org. Please reference The Space Show in the subject line. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:58:19 UTC
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Dr. Marshall Kaplan, Sunday, 12-6-09 (44.50MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Marshall Kaplan. Topics: Augustine, space shuttle, ISS, commercial space, orbital debris, Launchspace classes. Dr. Marshall Kaplan was our guest on The Space Show for this program which covered launch vehicles, the commercial space industry, space policy, debris removal, and Launchspace.com classes. In our first segment, we discussed some of the finding by the Augustine Commission and talked about the likely flight profile for Ares 1 and Ares 5 and inquired about heavy lift. Commercial space, EELV and NASA budgets weighed heavily on this discussion which you do not want to miss as its comprehensive. Dr. Kaplan further talked about flying the shuttle for five more years and the need to keep ISS going and how to use it more effectively. Our guest also focused on the gap regarding a period without U.S. human spaceflight and that is a serious problem. We started the second segment by learning how to reduce the cost of shuttle launches by privatizing shuttle operations and selling the flights to NASA and others on a commercial basis. Listen to his plan and see what you think. The issue of NASA and aerospace industry job loss came up, especially along the Space Coast, so we talked about the space labor market now and in the future. Note that there is a serious lack of quality and exciting programs in the pipeline so there is a huge gap regarding the best use of space labor. During this segment, Dr. Kaplan outlined his preferred approach to civil space policy. Don't miss it! As we started the third and final segment, we focused on orbital debris. This is a comprehensive discussion that you should listen to as its important. Among the many important things said during this segment, Marshall pointed out the danger or red zone for debris is from 600 to 1100 KM. It is the biggest zone of concern. Listen to the discussion to find out why and what he had to say about other space altitudes, and how debris can be managed. We even talked about developing commercial businesses to undertake the problem but as you will hear, getting governments involved in this issue is not clear cut, easy, or widespread. As Dr. Kaplan said, figuring out how and who should pay for debris mitigation is a huge question. Toward the end of this segment, Dr. Kaplan talked about some of his upcoming classes that he teaches through Launchspace. Please visits www.launchspace.com for class information and more details about Dr. Kaplan and his work. If you have a question or comment for Dr. Marshall Kaplan or want to find out about his classes, please email him at mhk@launchspace.com.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:26:10 UTC
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Brian Horais, Friday, 12-4-09 (60.83MB; download) -- Guest: Brian Horais. Topics: Secondary payloads, R& D and testing, EELV payload margins. Brian Horais was our guest today for this program. I suggest you read his recent Space Review article which was the basis for this program. You can find it at www.thespacereview.com/article/1489/1. In our first segment, Brian spoke about our space industry and its leadership challenges. He talked about risk taking, becoming too risk averse and the need for testing in space which is not done to a large degree because of the high costs and the risks involved.. The U.S. lack of innovation came up as did information on how foreign launch operations handle these issues. This brought us to the subject of secondary payloads on existing launchers and we learned that many of our EELV launches fly with excess margins because we have a mindset against secondary payloads. Brian told about the very successful Ariane ASAP program and suggested we need a program similar to it. In our second session, our guest talked about earlier programs for small payload launches, the RASCAL program for example, an F$ Phantom program, etc. A caller provided some information on his ideas in solving this problem. Brian also told us about his previous efforts to bring these issues to the attention of policy makers. Don't miss what he had to say about this. We talked about ESA and educational support as compared to NASA. In his Space Review article, Brian outlines several steps he believes would help improve the situation. We began discussing these steps at the beginning of the next segment. As we started the third segment, Brian went through his suggestions from Page 2 of his article. I suggest you read and review them. One of the ideas suggested was extensive research in the Van Allen Belts and this was discussed throughout both this and the next segment. You will want to hear this discussion. As we moved into the final segment, we talked more about testing and about the Ariane Vega small launcher program. A listener asked about suborbital as a path to orbital or a facilitator to orbital. Don't miss what our guest had to say about this. Brian repeated his message to get the word out and to keep working the issue so policy makers and businesses see the opportunity secondary payloads and low cost testing. If you want to send Brian Horais a question or comment, please use bhorais@comcast.net. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:52:22 UTC
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Howard Bloom, Tuesday, 12-1-09 (52.85MB; download) -- Guest: Howard Bloom. Topics: Space development, re-vision of capitalism, SSP, unlimited space resources. Howard Bloom returned for this nearly two hour program (without a break) to discuss his new book, "The Genius Of The Beast: A Radical Re-Vision Of Capitalism." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) Amazon Partners webpage so if you buy it, please do so here so Amazon will contribute to The Space Show. For purchase, use
www.amazon.com/dp/1591027543?tag=onegialeafou-20. We started our discussion with Howard giving us an introduction to his book beginning with trade from early Venice, the use of cotton and porcelain, new sailing ships, and finding trade routes to China that bypassed the traditional routes that included land caravans and more. His point in this discussion was to show that those nations that don't evolve, bring in new markets, new technology, and new ways of doing things parish over time. Developing and using space by the United States was what he was talking about, especially when he introduced energy to us. This brought us to the need for SSP which we discussed many times during this program. His new book is a world civilization, history book that shows how to keep capitalism developing, evolving, and vibrantly alive. One of the important themes throughout this program and Howard's presentation was the need to look up, not down. He told several stories that you will hear that illustrate the necessity to look up. One story focused on dinosaurs and you will love it. Later in the show, he used his earlier work, associations, and friendships with Michael Jackson and others to drive home his points around vision, looking up, and more. Sustainability was discussed and again, if you want a copy of his 2006 Yale graduation speech titled "Screw Sustainability," please send me an email and I will send it to you. We talked about the need for quality STEM and history education. A listener asked about bureaucracies and this is a discussion you must hear. Howard told another great story about O2 at one time in our history being a poison in response to those claims that carbon and other elements and bacterium in our lives are toxics. He said the key is not to just realize they are today a poison or a toxic, but instead to learn to use these materials as a positive. Don't miss this important discussion. Howard pointed out that the eco movement, as important as it is, is the opposite of expanding and moving forward using space and space resources. This was discussed in various ways throughout this show and its important to hear what Howard Bloom says about this subject and movement. Even the famous Earth-rise photo and Earth Day. His book points out the need to take the soul of a business to the market, to the customer to provide what people want and to give back to the customer, the user, the buyer. He turns current models upside down and again, we associated this approach and change in perception with the need to look up, go to space, develop space, and tap space for its resources. Howard and I both agreed that at this time the West and the United States is fighting for its survival. What Howard talks about in his book is a path to continued growth, wealth development, forward progress and as you hear me say on several programs, the solution to many of our problems goes through space and Howard agreed. Listen to this show and read his book. Let him know what you think. Howard can be reached through his Facebook account by searching for him or use HowBloom. You can find him on Twitter by using HowardXBloom. Questions and comments can always be forwarded through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:04:34 UTC
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Wayne White, Monday, 11-30-09 (54.27MB; download) -- Guest: Wayne White. Topics: Space law and policy, orbital debris, space property rights. Wayne White, noted space attorney, returned for this nearly two hour Space Show program. In our first segment, Wayne mentioned the importance for young people pursuing a career in space law and policy. This was a recurring theme throughout today's program. Wayne then offered an update regarding the issue of space debris and current mitigation efforts. He started out listing several recent events including the January 2007 Chinese shoot down of its own satellite at 537 miles up creating about 100,000 pieces of debris. On Feb. 20, 2008, the U.S. Navy shot down our own satellite 130 miles up with most debris burning up in the atmosphere. The third event was Feb. 10, 2009 with the Iridium and Cosmos satellite collision 461 miles up, an event totally missed by the Space Surveillance Network. Toward the end of this segment, Wayne started discussing liability issues regarding these events and other possible space events. In our second segment, our guest said space law really got started with the 1957 Sputnik launch and that it was similar to the law of the High Seas. Mr. White then referenced Articles 9 and 6 of the Outer Space Treaty. He also summarized all the five UN space treaties. He talked about how the U.S. has taken the lead in debris mitigation and that NASA was actually the first to develop debris guidelines, most of which are in the U.S. Government Standard of Practices. He summarized several of the general principles and highlighted the final solution which is Direct Retrieval. You definitely want to hear this discussion. Space Traffic Control was discussed and he directed us to an important AST website so have your pencil ready when listening to his comments. In our third segment, we continued talking about space traffic control and law, plus Wayne focused on educational paths for becoming a space attorney. We talked about the ISS Agreement which is known as the Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA). In responding to a listener question, Wayne talked about space property right. This is an important discussion and it you may be surprised as to how Wayne White suggested we deal with the issue of space property rights and what it might mean for facilitating commercial space development. Regulation and policy were major issues in this discussion, including taking positive steps such as Zero G Zero Tax. He concluded today's show by appealing to people to study to be a space lawyer and to study space law and policy. If you have comments or questions for Wayne White, please send them to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com for forwarding to Mr. White. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:23:51 UTC
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Open Lines, Sunday, 11-29-09 (63.71MB; download) -- Guest: Open Lines. Topics: Due diligence, science peer review, individual accountability. Today's program was a two hour Open Lines program with each segment running about an hour. As the themes were the same throughout the discussion, I've not broken this description down by segment. We started the program with my brief comments reminding listeners that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. My comments were largely directed at recent SSP claims made to me in emails as well on the show, plus a few books I have previewed for authors. Our first caller was Markus from German who told us about his interesting podcasts at http://omegataupodcast.net. I recommend adding this website to your source information for space and science matters. In addition to learning about his podcasts, I asked him about space advocacy and the interest of Germans in space development, even space tourism. I suspect many of you will be surprised by what he said so I urge you to listen to his comments. The next caller, John from Montana, brought up the issue of science funding, selective agenda driven project funding, NSF funding and more. This became the basis for the primary theme of today's program which was how do we know what is real, objective, etc? In the scope of discussing this issue and individual accountability for doing due diligence, at least on a few issues that a person cares about from politics, health care to space development issues, many listeners participated in the discussion. Andrew in Tucson suggested following the source code to the origin and more but his suggestions require people to have skills, expertise, knowledge, and time that most of us do not have. How many of us for example can follow computer source code to its origin and verify it? As you will hear in our discussion throughout this entire show, we need effective methods to be sure we are not being mislead, lied to, given inaccurate information, or unduly influenced on policy in this or that direction. The risk in all this as we discussed was that policy gets made on bad science, bad engineering, and we often don't know the facts, only what is told to us or reported to us by agenda driven media, ill-informed media and others. We discussed the media and not relying on it, the recent leaks of the U.K's Climate Research Unit's "cooked" computer code and climate models used for predicting Earth warming and global warming trends, and the difficulty in getting funding for grants and research if the project seeking funding is not among the accepted approach to study and research. Later in the show Marshall called in to discuss ethics and engineering and then Stephen called in from Canada to talk about the downside of using the term cheap access to space when in fact the use of the word "cheap" implied too many negatives and should not be used. Instead, low cost space access or affordable space access were preferred. We then talked about the use of other cultural based terms such as the frontier and colonization versus settlement. If you want to send a comment or question to any of those that called the show today, send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to the person you designate. I also welcome your feedback to me. The next Open Lines program is scheduled for Sunday, Dec. 27, 12-1:30 PM PST. Remember, Open Lines programs unfold on air based on the input, calls, and topics coming from the listeners. Any and all topics are welcome and as you will hear on this show, any and all topics come up for discussion. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:50:59 UTC
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Paul Breed, Friday, 11-27-09 (60.15MB; download) -- Guest: Paul Breed. Topics: Lunar Lander Challenge (LLC), rocket technology, space vision and policy. We welcomed Paul Breed back to The Space Show to discuss his recent LLC experiences. We started our first segment with Paul giving us an update as to this year's LLC and the Unreasonable Rocket effort to win both phases, the 90 second and the 180 second phase. You can learn more about his efforts and work at his blog and website, http://unreasonablerocket.blogspot.com. Paul tells about his errors and the mistake he made in going for both phases rather than focusing on only one of the two goals. This is a most interesting and instructive discussion so don't miss it. During this discussion, Paul was asked why errors like what he was describing are so often made in rocketry and space projects. See if you concur with his answer to this question. In our second segment, Mr. Breed explained his choice of launch location and the advantages to being under the amateur launch rules. Later in this segment, we began discussing the next step for the LLC contestants and the issues of drag and energy came up, especially in terms of going orbital for not only the LLC companies but for NewSpace in general. This is an important discussion, don't miss it. We also addressed market concepts and science payloads between 100,000 feet and LEO. See what you think about our saying the market in this area is uncertain. Paul did mention the space tourism market which may be real but is also largely unknown and will remain so until the flights starting taking place and the market unfolds. He talked about Russian rockets and how they use propellants compared to American rockets. Near the end of this segment, the questions was asked about what is new, what is advanced since the 6o's? Paul talked about electronics and the use of some composites. As we started segment three, we talked about Earth to LEO transportation and the NewSpace industry. Here Paul talked about Space X and also what was known about Blue Origin though as we all know, Blue Origin maintains very tight control over its press announcements and company information. The subject of autonomous spaceflight vehicles came up and Paul had much to say about this that was positive. Again, its an important discussion, don't miss it. We began segment four with a discussion on the commercial potential of SSP and could SSP be the needed silver bullet to drive down launch prices. Paul talked about space tourism as a silver bullet and mentioned a threatening NEO as another possible silver bullet. The subject of human spaceflight came up and we talked about it in the context of a NASA jobs program and the need to do human spaceflight exploration and exploitation. This led to a discussion about reforming and remaking NASA to more of a DARPA or NACA organization. I asked Mr. Breed for the five year vision for his company and he said he would like to be able to work on and achieve some orbital capabilities but first needs to replenish bank accounts after his LLC efforts. He said he definitely wants to do more in space with long term meaning. If you want to send a question or comment to Paul Breed, please use paul@rasdoc.com but you will have to first reply to his spam filter. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:15:54 UTC
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Alan Boyle, Tuesday, 11-24-09 (44.08MB; download) -- Guest: Alan Boyle. Topics: Pluto, solar system planets, space tourism. Alan Boyle returned as a guest to discuss his new book, "The Case For Pluto: How A Little Planet Made A Big Difference." This book is available as an Amazon partner on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) website, www.amazon.com/dp/0470505443?tag=onegialeafou-20. If you order it from this OGLF Amazon link, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF. During our first segment, Mr. Boyle talked about Pluto and why it has garnered so much attention among people all over the world. Perhaps its because Pluto is small, possibly seen as an underdog planet, even having a name that makes people think of the adorable Disney pup character by the same name. Alan and I talked about perspective regarding the solar system. For example, depicting just how far Pluto is from Earth and the sun. Alan suggested we visit an excellent website that does a good job of showing this distance so do visit www.phrenopolis.com/perspective/solarsystem/. During this segment, Alan talked about the IAU vote the took away the planet status of Pluto, the upcoming New Horizons Pluto Mission =, and the possibility for ice volcanoes and other geologic activity on Pluto. His book also discusses Planet X so we asked him about that and 2012! In the second segment, Alan was asked about the potential gravitational impact on Earth from Pluto which he said was probably not there but that Pluto does exert an influence in its neighborhood. Alan also outlined the structure and contents of his book which I strongly recommend to you for your own reading and for gift giving this holiday season. Listeners asked him for updates on JP Aerospace which he talked about and also Bussard Polywell Fusion which he addressed. Another listener asked about suborbital tourism vehicles and their flight testing profiles. Don't miss this discussion. As we started the third and final segment, Bill from Virginia asked Alan if he would be willing to let his parents, family, kids, and others close to him take a ride on the suborbital vehicles and what would he require for flight testing before saying yes. You do not want to miss his response to this question. We also talked about the Augustine Commission options and Alan indicated that we should definitely explore all the possibilities for the best way to get to space, the ISS, etc. He thought that a successful Falcon 9 launch had the potential to strongly impact the options and decisions for the best. As for NewSpace, he talked about it seeming as if we were always two years away from a commercial space tourism flight. We talked about autonomous systems and Blue Origins although Alan did not have lots of information to share with us as the company operates in a tightly controlled information environment. When asked what his next book would be about, Alan said he wanted to do a book on fusion but that he had no such book in the works as of yet. When asked what he saw ahead for space in 2010, Alan gave us perhaps the best comment of the year, listen for his exact quote but the essence of what he said was that 2010 would be a year of clarity, pivotal clarity on what reality will be! Read Alan's blog, Cosmic Log at http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/. To learn more about his book, visit www.thecaseforpluto.com. If you want to send Alan Boyle a question or comment, please do so at alan@thecaseforpluto.com and reference The Space Show in the subject line. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:24:53 UTC
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