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The Space Show
The Space Show focuses on timely and important issues influencing the development of outer-space commerce, space tourism,space exploration and space development. The Space Show is committed to facilitating our becoming a space-faring nation and society with a growing and self-sustaining space-faring economy. The Space Show also focuses on other related subjects of interest to us all.
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Dr. John Jurist, Sunday, 5-31-09 (62.87MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. John Jurist. Topics: NewSpace, becoming spacefaring, dogma, Space Cynics, launch economics. Dr. John Jurist returned to The Space Show to offer a response to a Space Cynics comment posted on the Space Cynics blog on April 28, 2009 by Matt Colborn. Matt asked what the positive action people should take regarding pushing towards our becoming spacefaring. Dr. Jurist responded to Matt's question and you can read his response at http://spacecynic.wordpress.com/old-space-cadets-view/. Our discussion proved stimulating and challenging as listeners not only asked questions about the Jurist action plan/view, but they also wanted a good definition of NewSpace, wondered why the term exists at all, and suggested other terms to represent space development activities. One caller, Thalia, asked what the NewSpace dogma was. You will want to hear how both Dr. Jurist and I answered that one! Dr. Jurist offered concrete suggestions ranging from stopping several negative and personal attacks on people who put forth different views, analysis, or bring different perspectives to the table. We also talked about the possible differences between NewSpace advocates and NewSpace businessmen and women. This is an important discussion you will want to hear. One of our callers, Jack, an economics student in Texas, talked about markets, the killer application for human spaceflight, and the economics of the launch rate. Don't miss this discussion, its a good one. One listener asked Dr. Jurist for a reasonable test by a NewSpace participant regarding putting forth a positive impression with accurate rhetoric of say a particular project. One idea put forth by John was to more openly discuss issues by submitting papers to reviewed conferences and mixing it up idea-wise with peers that may not always be part of the church choir for NewSpace. I urge you to read the full article written by Dr. Jurist on Space Cynics at the URL above. If you have comments or questions for Dr. Jurist, please post them in the comments section after John's Cynic's article. Any comments or questions sent to me here at The Space Show will be posted on Cynics on the Old Space Cadet tab as I am asking you to do. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:01:08 UTC
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Dr. Philip Harris, Friday, 5-29-09 (60.12MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Philip Harris. Topics: space enterprise, terrestrial law vs. astrolaw, space and culture synergy. Dr.Philip Harris was our guest today to discuss his new book, "Space Enterprise: Living and Working Offworld in the 21t Century." Visit www.drphilipharris.com for more information about the book and the full scope of work produced by Dr. Harris. You can also purchase this book through One Giant Leap Foundation and Amazon www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/books.htm. We started our discussion with Dr. Harris by focusing on the space vision for humanity and various countries as well as casting the space vision representing the image for the future. In this discussion, Dr. Harris referenced the work by Kraft Ehricke and we talked about how we are not limited in resources when space is factored into our awareness, economy, and actions. This is in sharp contrast to the school of thought represented by Club of Rome thinking regarding the limitation of resources. What type of world do you want to live in is a question that needs to be asked and answered as space provides the options and opportunities that unbound us. Listen to this discussion and see if you agree with Dr. Harris. We spent considerable time during the show talking about education and culture. Synergy was mentioned as a major part of culture was depicted as key to our becoming space-faring. You will certainly want to hear what Dr. Harris had to say about global cultural synergy and interdependence in our space planning. Space enterprise from the macro perspective was an overriding theme for this discussion and space development. Later in the show, Dr. Harris discussed his recommendations for how best to move forward. He described in detail the Global Space Trust concept for here on Earth and the the Lunar Economic Development Authority for the Moon. See what you think of the programs and suggestions offered during this discussion. One of the recurring themes of our discussion was the need for education starting in grade school. If you have questions or comments for Dr. Harris, you can reach him through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com or his website, www.drphilipharris.com/contact.html. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 30 May 2009 16:27:52 UTC
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Open Lines, Tuesday, 5-26-09 (59.56MB; download) -- Guest: Open Lines. Topics: Space Show guest audio quality, phone line issues, listener exchanges with guests, California space economy. This was an Open Lines program. The first segment was my monolog about two main issues, guest phone line audio quality and listener behavior with guests. You will hear the comprehensive explanation of phone line audio issues faced by The Space Show with guest phone lines, possible solutions and ideas that while always suggested to me do not work. I then addressed an issue relating to some listeners who attack and character assassinate a guest via email, always behind the back of the guest, then try to engage me in supporting their ideas and theories as being correct while suggesting or even proving the guest was wrong. Yet they won't engage the guest with their own ideas. I provided some recent examples of this, explained the new policy of the show which is to pass on these emails to the guests if the listener won't do it. Note that a major purpose of The Space Show is education and this requires exchanges with guests. I also talked about being polite, considerate and to drop the attitude and rudeness when communicating with the guest. Tell me what you think about this problem which seems to be happening more and more. Why is it so hard for a listener to engage the guest using courtesy and exchange valid ideas and concepts? Why does the listener insist on bombarding me with his/her theories and ideas when in reality only the guest has the knowlege and ability to respond to these challenges. As I pointed out, all guests are willing to accept emails from listeners after the show ends. Some want me to filter the emails, others accept them directly from the listener. So please, engage the guest with your ideas and challenges and copy me on the notes or have me forward your thoughts to the guest. Just do it without attacking the guest. We also talked about suborbital space tourism, spaceports, and the California space economy. I described my experiences lobbying the California legislature with the California Space Authority (CSA) Space Day last week in Sacramento. One thing I forgot to mention on air was that lobbying the California legislature was American democracy at its best. Lots of citizen groups were there on the day I was there, all wanting to talk to the Member for their particular program or special interest. For example, I saw groups from the AARP, Green California, numerous educational groups, health related groups, etc. All get 20-30 minutes with a legislative assistant to articulate their interest and/or cause. This happens every day the legislature is in session and I understand its even more intense on the federal side with Congress. No matter what we say about our government and its leaders, we the people do have the right and we are petitioning our government through its elected representatives. This is very impressive when seeing it in action, when seeing the amount of people involved and the wide variety of issues being fought for by Californians and our citizens in general. It was a sobering and very impressive experience. As you will hear, overall it was a very positive experience for me and others and I strongly recommend all of you engage in similar activities. We also talked about the state of education in California and elsewhere, high school and higher. We learned that Forbes Magazine said Virginia was the best place to do business and listener Jack shared with us how this was a plus for the Mid-Atlantic Spaceport. By the way, the Mid-Atlantic Spaceport is my favorite for the commercial spaceports with the most probability of commercial success. Here why I said this. and let me know what you think of my analysis. We also talked about other spaceports, their ability to do orbital flights versus only up and down suborbital flights. A listener asked me why I am skeptical about the potential commercial success of Spaceport America in New Mexico. I Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 27 May 2009 15:03:56 UTC
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Michael Potter, Monday, 5-25-09 (41.19MB; download) -- Guest: Michael Potter: Topics: "Orphans of Apollo," Mir Space Station, NASA, National Security. Michael Potter returned to The Space Show for updates regarding his excellent documentary film, "Orphans of Apollo." You can learn more about the film and purchase your copy of it which I recommend by visiting www.orphansofapollo.com. Michael told us the story of a group of rebel entrepreneurs who almost bought the Russian Mir Space Station to use it for commercial purposes. Its an inspiring and exciting story with lessons to be learned that are playing a role in guiding today's space entrepreneurs. During the show, one of the business participants in the Mir purchase featured in the film, Gus Gardellini, called in and added stories and detail to enhance the story told in this excellent documentary film. Gus also told us about his book on the subject being written and asked for feedback and possible NASA/Mir information so if you have such information, please send your note to themirbook@gmail.com. One of the important things driven home by Michael Potter during this show and in the film was the leadership required for this project. He also talked about the importance of the Band of Brothers management style. We also talked about national security issues because the Mir entrepreneurs wanted to use 1950's technology including the electrodynamics tether. You will certainly want to hear what he had to say about this subject and export control. As this show unfolds, you will hear why this story is still relevant and important today and why many say that this story is the greatest space story never told. I urge you to see this film or order it from the above website. If you have comments or questions for Michael Potter, you can send them through his website or http://www.orphansofapollo.com/. When contacting Michael, please put Space Show in the subject line. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Tue, 26 May 2009 14:40:05 UTC
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Dr. Angie Bukley, Sunday, 5-24-09 (42.64MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Angie Bukley. Topics: ISU Summer Session, NASA Ames, space education, space studies, space commerce. Dr. Angie Bukley returned to The Space Show to discuss the upcoming summer session for the International Space University (ISU) which will be held this year at NASA Ames. For more information, please visit the ISU website which is www.isunet.edu. Dr. Bukley is the Space Studies Program Site Director for the Summer Session which runs from June 29-August 28, 2009. We discussed the Summer Session program and schedule and focused in on the panel discussions which are free and open to the public as well as student team projects and other aspects of this year's program. We learned that there are three team projects, one focusing on disaster response, another on Martian Caves, and the third addresses the potential for collecting space energy for assisting with Earth's energy needs. Dr. Bukley described the curriculum, the student mix, and the faculty mix. We also talked about deadlines which are past for this program but next year as ISU will soon be taking applications and the program will be held in Strasbourg, France which is the home campus for ISU. We discussed the importance of a space studies education for careers in the space world and this was made quite clear when Angie thanked the sponsors for the program, Boeing, Oracle, Cisco, Lockheed Martin, and Northrop Grumman, plus the support for ISU programming from all national space agencies including China. Many other aspects of the NASA Ames Summer Session were discussed and you are sure to hear more about this important program as the session begins and its events and programs are reported throughout the space press and media. If you have questions or comments for Dr. Angie Bukley, please forward them to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will make sure Dr. Bukley receives them right away. If you are in the NASA Ames area (Mountain View, CA - San Francisco, CA) when any of the panels are being presented per the schedule given during this program, do your best to attend. Not only do you get to attend the panel but also the networking reception afterwards. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 25 May 2009 16:05:29 UTC
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Dr. Joseph Pelton, Friday, 5-22-09 (58.73MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Joseph Pelton. Topics: Space tourism, commercial space development, space plane safety, space economics. Dr. Joseph Pelton returned to The Space Show today to discuss his new book published by Apogee, "License To Orbit: The Future Of Commercial Space Travel." His co-author was Peter Marshall from the UK. This book is available at most book stores and online sites, including Amazon and the One Giant Leap Foundation website. To purchase this book through One Giant Leap Foundation, visit www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/books and click on Dr. Pelton's book. Purchases through One Giant Leap and Amazon benefit The Space Show. During our discussion, Dr. Pelton went over the regulatory part of space tourism and talked about regulations in the U.S., Canada, and also the UK. There were listener questions about accidents with fatalities including increased regulation, and the potential financial impact on the industry and company involved. We then asked Dr. Pelton about show stoppers for the industry which he discussed in detail in his book. Some of the show toppers discussed during the program focused on pollution and environmental issues and the development of military space. Spaceports were discussed and we looked at their economic viability. Foreign competition in the space tourism industry was brought up and Dr. Pelton brought us current with several space tourism ventures taking place in Europe and elsewhere. We talked about space education, the SFF Teachers In Space program and much more so you will want to hear this interview and what Dr. Pelton had to say about these important topics. A listener asked about establishing a cabinet level Department of Space. Joe was more supportive of bringing back the National Space Council under the Vice President's office. The Google Lunar X-Prize was brought up and as you will hear, Dr. Pelton looks to this and other contests for important contributions to space development and space tourism. We talked about putting more investment in robotic and unmanned systems and why that was so important. A caller asked for a definition of space tourism and wondered along with Dr. Pelton if we should not be referring to the effort as adventure travel or something similar.You do not want to miss this discussion. Toward the end of the show, our guest was asked about the most inspiring and prolific period in his teaching career for space activity, inspiration, and student enrollment. He suggested the era was the 1980's with President Regan as it was a period of high expectations and the start of the ISS program with the Russians. Make sure you hear this complete discussion. Earlier in the program, Dr. Pelton talked about space safety and space planes and suggested we all look at the published papers on this topic at www.issfoundation.org for the International Space Safety Foundation. If you have questions or comments for Dr. Pelton, you can email him at joepelton@verizon.net. I strongly recommend his book, "License To Orbit: The Future Of Commercial Space Travel." Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 23 May 2009 15:52:34 UTC
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Neil McGilvray & Bob Utley, Tuesday, 5-19-09 (46.87MB; download) -- Guests: Neil McGilvray & Bob Utley. Topics: High powered rocketry, Rockets Magazine, rocket engine certification, Merchant Marine, Somali pirates. Neil McGilvray and Bob Utley were our guests for this Space Show program which focused on high powered model rocketry, also referred to as hobby or amateur rocketry. We discussed the need to be credentialed by either Tripoli or the National Association of Rocketry to be able to fly H and larger rocket engines. Our guests explain this very well and also set out the path from beginner to one who can and does fly the high powered rockets, all the way up to Q engines and larger. Our guests explained the different engines and the size designation, we talked about the new amateur rocket rules by the FAA, and we also discussed the needed FAA flight waivers. The rockets talked about are all solids though hybrids can also be used. The rules do not allow liquids and biprops are not used other than in special locations for special projects and not without a significant set of problems. As a result of listener questions we learned that the rules do not allow for any guidance on the rockets and no animals can be on board any rocket for any reason. We also talked about the launch and flight success rate for high powered rocketry, listen to what our guests said about this. At the start of the second segment, we diverted for a few minutes from the subject of high powered rocketry to talk about the Merchant Marine and the situation regarding the Somali pirates and how crews could and should defend themselves and their ships from attack. Neil is a merchant mariner and still has friends sailing on ships in the area of pirate operation. He was quite outspoken about the problem and possible solutions. He discussed arming the crews, said they were being trained to be armed at this time and talked about how the pirates actually attack a ship. This was information we don't always hear in the traditional news services we all use so I hope you find it as interesting as I did. I thought it was most interesting to learn that the wheel house was the target, that a strategy to defend the ship is to make it go dark, and that even small to relatively larger small arms may be insufficient given some of the weapons the pirates carry on their small boats. While this subject was not that relevant to Space Show topics, Neil was the first guest I have had on the show in the Merchant Marine so I thought it was worth a few minutes of discussion to hear from him and those actually on the ocean as to their perspective of the problem and their recommendations for solutions. In the last segment, we returned to discussing rockets. Did you know that recovering the rocket is the hardest part of the entire flight? Also, more and more computer power is being used on these high powered rocket flights including the managing of electronic packages on board the rocket. We also talked about the cameras used to take pictures of the flight such as those used by Steve Eves and his recent Saturn V launch and flight. We learned that there were on board cameras on the Saturn V plus cameras on the ground being used to document the flight. In addition to the Saturn V flight, we talked about other well known high powered rocket projects. Neil and Bob also told us about Tripoli Rocketry Association's 28th Annual LDRS event July 2-6, 2009 in Potter, NY. Find out more about this event to see if you want to attend at www.ldrs28.org/. Other websites of interest to you include www.mdrocketry.org/ for the MDRA and for Tripoli please use www.tripoli.org/. For Rockets Magazine, use www.rocketsmagazine.com. If you have a question or comment for Neil McGilvray or Bob Utley, you can send your note to me through drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to them. In addition, you can use the contact information on the Rockets Magazine at www.libertylaunchsystems.com/Contact. If you used the contact page, make sure you put The S Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 20 May 2009 17:40:01 UTC
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Dr. Martin Ross, Monday, 5-18-09 (44.79MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Martin Ross. Topics: Space launch market and stratospheric ozone depletion, Montreal Protocol, geoengineering. Dr. Martin Ross, lead author and researching for the Astropolitics Journal reviewed article, "Limits on the Space Launch Market Related to Stratospheric Ozone Depletion" was our guest for this Space Show program. If you would like a copy of this paper, please email me and I will send it to you as a .pdf document. Dr. Ross introduced us to the potential issue of rockets directly depositing exhaust material in the stratosphere and the consequences of doing so. A major thesis of this reviewed paper is that the space launch market needs to acknowledge that there is likely a limit to the amount of material that rockets can deposit into he stratosphere over time. As the space industry continues to develop, as launch prices drop, and as more commercial and civil launches take place, there may come a time when the industry faces strict regulations because of this deposited stratospheric material. As he pointed out during the show and throughout this paper, we are not yet at that point and the information available on rocket exhaust deposits in the stratosphere is lacking. Much more data is needed. More information exists on solid propellants and we can see the problem though the data is still incomplete for policy and regulatory action. Not nearly as much data exists for liquids and I'm sure you too will find it interesting in that scientists have yet to fly research planes through the exhaust trails of a liquid rocket. When he was asked about the hybrid propellant being used for the suborbital tourism market, he said no data was available on what it does or does not do in terms of deposits to the stratosphere. The Montreal Protocol was discussed in detail as this treaty controls earth based pollutants that make it to the stratosphere. I told a personal story of how this impacted my family with MDH usage and how we were blind sided on the RX requirements that came out quickly as a result of the Protocol. But as Dr. Ross pointed out, the Montreal Protocol does not yet regulate material directly deposited to the stratosphere so for the time being, rocket emissions are not regulated. This prompted a listener question about environmental impact reports and could this type of issue show up in the EIR needed to get a launch license. You will want to hear what Dr. Ross has to say about the EIR and its coverage of this particular issue. Another issue several listeners and I brought up had to do with using alternative propellants to avoid the problem. As you will hear, its not so simple to avoid the problem with an alternative propellant, especially if the root of the problem is not well understood or even identified.Contrary to many public reports about this paper, Dr. Ross and his fellow authors are not calling for a regulated launch market. They are pointing out the issues as of today, the status of the known research, and where additional research is needed. Toward the end of the program, Dr. Ross mentioned that without this needed information and stability in the policy and regulatory areas, it would be unlikely that there would be a large amount of launches to support the SSP industry for example. At the end of the program, he also pointed out the lack of data regarding hypersonic stratospheric emissions and this might lead to problems with hypersonic development. He concluded the show saying we should not fear knowledge. We should instead fear the lack of knowledge and bogus science. Over and over during this interview, Dr. Ross made the point that the business and investment world does not like uncertainty and one of the worst types of uncertainties facing the business world in the space launch industry is the likelihood of unknown government regulation, policy making, or interference. By understanding what happens with rockets propellant stratospheric deposits, the industry will be in a stro Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Tue, 19 May 2009 16:07:01 UTC
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Steve Eves, Sunday, 5-17-09 (41.77MB; download) -- Guest: Steve Eves. Topics: high powered rocketry, Saturn V, Apollo, U.S. Space & Rocket Center. Steve Eves was our guest today to discuss his recent and very successful launch of his 1/10th scale Saturn V rocket he built in his garage in Ohio and flew to 4,400 feet on April 25, 2009 at the Eugene Higgs Farm in Maryland. The scale model Saturn V rocket will soon be part of the Saturn V display at the U.S. Space & Rocket Center pending final negotiations with Steve. You can see this launch on Youtube at www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj4lj6YSwzg. During our interview with Steve, we discussed hobby/amature rocketry, the need for the high powered rocket associations, Tripoli Rocketry Association and the National Association of Rocketry. Steve explained what was meant by high powered rocketry and the requirements regarding G, H, and higher level rocket motors. Steve went into detail as to how he built his 36' tall scale model of the Saturn V and you will want to hear about it. Note how he always worked with back up fasteners, over 10,000 nails and more, aviation plywood, and fiberglass. He also talked about the vulnerability of recovery systems and how he designed his system with the parachutes to counter the most common problems found with recovery. His Saturn V had a gross lift off weight of 1,648 lbs, reached maximum speed of 308 mph in about 2 seconds, and was 30" in diameter. We talked about fulfilling a dream and how he was inspired by the early Apollo program to do this and finally he was able to do it. Listeners asked lots of questions about his team, transporting the rocket across state lines, fuel, range safety, flight conditions, the FAA waiver for the launch, and his actual expectations of a successful launch before he pushed the button. This is a program you will want to hear as its importance transcends hobby rocketry. Steve Eves represents inspiration, having a dream and making that dream come true. You can send your questions and comments to Steve Eves at fireside2001@aol.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 18 May 2009 15:47:43 UTC
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Dean Davis, Friday, 5-15-09 (58.17MB; download) -- Guest: Dean Davis. Topics: public education, engineers, lobbying elected officials, GPS vulnerability, airborne laser, SSP, satellite protection, Phantom Works. This program is the first of a series of programs The Space Show is undertaking regarding the state of public education in California as well as the rest of the United States. Dean Davis was our guest today to discuss with us STEM education and educational outreach programs for public high school students as well as other K-12 educational programs. Later in the show we asked Dean about other space programs that he was familiar with including GPS, the airborne laser, low cost space access, and SSP. Returning to education, Dean began the interview with a short summary and overview of the crisis we are facing in education in California and the United States, both in terms of needed engineers but also vocational or career educationally trained students. After Dean's introductory comments regarding the state of education and the need for engineers, he was asked if there were any programs that actually were in place and working. He identified two programs and spoke about one, the Project Lead The Way program in some detail. You can get more information about Project Lead The Way from their website, http://www.pltw.org/. If this interests you, follow Dean's recommendation to bring this program to a high school near you. Another program he mentioned was one that has been discussed on air before, "First Robotics." This program was started by well known inventor Dean Kamen. You can learn more about this program by visiting www.usfirst.org/default.aspx. Dean discussed education and related issues for the first 90 minutes of the show. We explored what inspires students and asked about the current Hubble repair mission, NewSpace and space tourism, and other NASA programs. You will want to hear what he said about these items and student inspiration. We also spent some time discussing who had the responsibility for improving STEM education. Was it NASA? Was it our elected officials, either state or federal? The School Board? It was here that Dean introduced us to the term "Parent Power." Listen to what he had to say about this. Its very important. Listeners asked him about high school as well as college internships in the aerospace industry. On this subject, Dean had much to say. We learned that national security is often used as an excuse to not offer internships but Dean specifically cited several company internships that show that is B.S. Especially since some of the companies offering the internships do highly classified work. Internships are needed, even at the high school level so this too was an important discussion that can help us exercise Parent Power. In the last segment of the show, we moved from education to some of the projects and work that Dean has been involved with and with which he has substantial expertise. One listener asked about using the airborne laser to destroy LEO space debris. While this may prove possible through thermal fluence and some debris might be impacted, such a system might be construed as an ASAT system rendering it useless for debris mitigation on the policy side. He mentioned other possible downsides as well. Another issue I brought up was based on a recent discussion among Space Show listeners about possible GPS vulnerability to the actions of an unfriendly state or group. Here, Dean explained just how fault tolerant GPS was and how much more so the newer versions are that are coming on line and will be coming online. I felt this was a fairly complete discussion given the fact that the discussion had to remain very general but as you will hear, GPS is fairly safe from interference both now and into the future. This led me to ask Dean what parts of the government are in charge of protecting important satellite arrays such as GPS and testing to make sure that the systems designed actually work. You will want to he Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 16 May 2009 17:20:37 UTC
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