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The Space Show focuses on timely and important issues influencing the development of outer-space commerce, space tourism,space exploration and space development. The Space Show is committed to facilitating our becoming a space-faring nation and society with a growing and self-sustaining space-faring economy. The Space Show also focuses on other related subjects of interest to us all.
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Sy Liebergot, Tuesday, 7-14-09 (62.18MB; download) -- Guest: Sy Liebergot. Topics: Apollo, NASA Flight Controllers, NASA risk aversion, NASA Administrators, school lectures. Sy Liebergot returned to The Space Show to discuss his book by Apogee, "Apollo EECOM: Journey Of A Lifetime." This book will be available on the One Giant Leap Foundation book page, www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/books.htm. By purchasing this book through this link, Amazon contributes to The Space Show/One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. Please note that this show was dedicated to honor Space X for their successful Falcon 1 launch on July 13, 2009. Also, there were some minor audio issues toward the end of the first segment coming up on the break causing some rough edits. I apologize in advance for any confusion the edits may cause in your smooth listening of this particular set of comments as we approach the first break. In talking to Mr. Liebergot, we learned that the Apollo 8 flight was his most memorable and important. Listen to what he said about this particular Apollo mission and see if you concur. He had the most fun with the ATSP flight. We also learned that he hated Skylab. Listen to what he said about it and why it was so disliked by the flight controllers. It sounds like the rotating shifts were most unpleasant. Listeners asked him about risk in NASA then and now. Sy had much to say about risk and the consciousness of risk in the space mindset during Apollo. For the most part, they never thought about it. Today, risk assessment rules in so many different ways that it’s a detriment to NASA and space development. Another listener asked about the accuracy of the film Apollo 13 since Sy was part of the real Apollo 13 mission. He said it was a Hollywood film and not bad but the real documentary which was excellent was a PBS documentary from 1994, "Apollo 13: To the Edge and Back." In response to other listener questions, Mr. Liebergot commented on the new incoming NASA Administrator and private company efforts to take us to the Moon should the U.S. fail to return in our civil space program. When asked what he would recommend to put the U.S civil space program back on track , he said he agreed with Buzz Aldrin and we should go directly to Mars. When asked how we could do that given he had previously listed several human factors problems and challenges that prevented a humans to Mars trip at this time or even long term space settlement, he said that we would have to focus and use the time readying the Mars mission to come up with answers to the human factors issues. We then had a spirited discussion about political and policy leadership, inspiration, and how a commitment for humans to Mars would support a turnaround in American attitudes, especially among school kids and other various groups within our nation and even the world. You can learn more about Sy Liebergot, his work, his current speaking and visiting engagements and more by visiting his website, www.apolloeecom.com. If you want to send him an email question or comment, please do so at syliebergot@gmail.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:19:40 UTC
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Chris Walker and Eric Daniels, Monday 7-13-09 (43.44MB; download) -- Guests: Chris Walker and Eric Daniels. Topics: California public education, career technical educational as well as college track in high school, politics of education. Chris Walker and Eric Daniels were our guests today to discuss the state of California public education and what it means for the California space workforce as well as other technology and skilled jobs in the state. If you are not living in California, don't think you are immune from these problems because as goes California, so goes the rest of the nation. This is a very important program that addresses a few of the many problems associated with public education but specifically how it will impact the 370,000 space jobs within California. As a way of introduction to this problem, our guests pointed out that in California, $65 billion is spent on public education. We have a high school drop out rate that goes into the 40% range, a drop out rate for the California State University program at 43% and within the UC system it is about 20%. Listen to the details behind these statistics. As you will hear, the problems start around 6th grade and increase in 7th and 8th grade, even before high school starts which is 9th grade in California. Much of our discussion was focused on the need for establishing CTE, Career Technical Education (vocational education), back in the schools so that students who do not want the UC track have an option and reason to stay in high school. As you will hear, these technical jobs are not the same as what many of us knew as vocational jobs way back in the year as today, CTE requires math and more. These are highly skilled and technical jobs and the need is for 7 to 9 career techs to support each scientist or engineer in a modern technology/space work assignment. Our guests explained the politics behind moving to a dual track high school program offering the CTE path along side the UC college prep track. As we learned, everyone pays lip service to supporting CTE but when it comes time for voting on it in the legislature or getting it out of the Appropriations Committee, it falls flat on its face to surrender to politics as usual. Many listeners emailed in questions ranging from budget cut issues, to priorities for what is taught in school, to questions about the teachers union, and even illegal immigration in the large school districts across the state. One program that was mentioned was the Get Real Program which we can all join to show support for what our guests were talking about today regarding CTE. You can find out more about the Get Real program and join it by visiting www.getrealca.com/. Several listeners asked about the opportunity to use retired experts in math, science, engineering, and other skilled professions in the schools and this led us to a discussion of the gray work force, getting through the credential requirement process and more. Some listeners sent in questions asking about the funding cuts and questioning the amount of money available for teaching the needed programs in our school system. Both of our guests pointed out that with $65 billion being spent on public education in California, the issue was not insufficient funding but priorities. That is, how the money is allocated and spent and clearly the priorities do not include the classes and programs needed for the space workforce but also the other technical jobs needed in California. As an example, our guests pointed out that in California there is a need for about 50,000 highly trained and skilled automotive jobs, 206,000 healthcare jobs, and over 700,000 skilled construction and related jobs. Our guests pointed out California Senate Bill 381 which may get lost in the Appropriations Committee. If you are in California and are interested in this bill, check it out, contact your member of the legislature or those on the Appropriations Committee. Or contact Karen Bass as suggested by our guests. Ms. Bass is the Speaker of the California A Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:24:20 UTC
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Dr. Matt Colborn, Sunday, 7-12-09 (58.85MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Matt Colborn. Topics: space art and illustration, science fiction, Space Cynics, NewSpace critiques & solutions. Dr. Matt Colborn joined us from the UK for this Space Show program. If you recall, Dr. Colborn posed a question on Space Cynics a few months past regarding the Cynics criticizing NewSpace without offering solutions to the problems they cited. The Cynics responded to Matt's comment by putting up on Cynics responses and The Space Show has featured programs focused on those responses. Matt contacted The Space Show as a result of these programs and in exchanging notes with him, he was asked to be a guest on The Space Show to discuss in his comment and to talk about space art and illustration, space enthusiasm in the UK, writing space related science fiction, and much more. Dr. Colborn writes the blog Cosmic Citizen which you can visit at http://cosmic-citizen.blogspot.com. In addition, check out the International Association for the Astronomical Arts (IAAA) at http://iaaa.org/. We started our discussion by addressing Matt's comments on his Space Cynics post. Most of the long first segment of this two hour program dealt with Matt's assessment of NewSpace, some of its problems and challenges, the infighting that goes on within the community (I told a recent story to verify some of the infighting), we talked about providing solutions, not just criticism. See what you think about what Matt and I said. Also, if you have not done so, visit the Space Cynics blog at http://spacecynic.wordpress.com/ and check out the comments regarding Matt's April 28 post and what Old Space Cadet and Money Cynic had to say. My comments are buried within the actual commentary to Matt's original post. After addressing Matt and Space Cynics, we turned to his art, illustrations, and science fiction writing. He received several listener questions relating to starting out with space art, how he selects an illustration project, the commercial market for space art in the UK and even the differences in the market for universe picture type space art versus humans in space type art. We also talked about hard science fiction which is science fiction that closely follows the laws of physics as opposed to general science fiction which takes far more liberties and artistic license with physics, engineering, etc. This is an interesting discussion which I am sure you will enjoy and learn from as did I. We also talked about space advocacy and organizations in the UK and lobbying the UK Parliament for space legislation. If you have comments or questions for Dr. Matt Colborn, you can send them to him at matt.colborn@googlemail.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:27:44 UTC
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Maria Catalina, Friday, 7-10-09 (75.96MB; download) -- Guest: Maria Catalina. Topics: The Astronaut Teacher Alliance, Atacama Desert in Chile, Teachers in Space, inspiring and motivating students. Maria Catalina was our guest for this Space Show program to discuss The Astronaut Teacher Alliance (TATA), Teachers in Space, and some of the exciting projects TATA is developing with teachers, and students of Chile near the Atacama Desert. This is the program to listen to if you want to know how to reach students, inspire and motivate them, and even get them to respect their teachers, and actually pay attention. Maria is a San Diego Middle School teacher. She has done the Zero G flights, received several NASA awards and tells how this space connection makes a difference with students that might typically be lost in the system. We also discussed projects that TATA is working on in Chile with the U.S. Embassy in Santiago, and with schools around the world as well. We talked about issues facing California public education, education policies and as you will hear, we got some questions from California teachers asking our guest how they might incorporate space teaching in a less than encouraging teaching environment. A listener in the UK sent in a few questions with an interest in seeing TATA come to the UK to which Maria responded and offered to do a teacher training for the next ISS EarthKAM mission. www.earthkam.ucsd.edu. Another listener asked about the level of interest in space in the Native American community and in tribal colleges. We talked about “Education 4 Your Earth’s SpaceGeneration” (EYES), the NASA ISS EarthKam program, Teachers In Space, and much more. Our UK listener even asked about the Colbert Mars Desert Research Station (MDRS) on the TATA website, www.gotata.info that happened when Maria was the first ever K12 teacher to command a rotation at MDRS. She talked about the invitation sent by Commander Catalina to Stephen Colbert on April 1, 2009. The actual link for the Colbert MDRS is www.spaceportacademy.org/colbertmarsdesertresearchstation. Early in the show, a listener asked Maria if she could compare and contrast teachers in Chile with teachers in the States regarding their interest in space, their willingness to teach space to their students, and how to do the same with students in Chile as well as the United States. You will not want to miss what Maria said in response to this question. Toward the end of the program, I asked Maria what kept her going, what inspired and motivated her since progress might seem very slow, even frustrating within the school system and the New Space community. Don't miss her response! We talked about the impact parental pressure might have on a school or school system that was not teaching or incorporating space in the classroom. Maria thought that if parents made their wishes known about how their students, who are members of the Earth’s first Space Generation, repeat the sentiment of students in the early 70’s, school officials would take note and change might take place in view of solid quantitative data revealing the striking increase in student achievement during that time. So listeners, how do we get the parents in all types of schools to show an interest in their space generation and make sure they communicate that interest to not only the teachers, but indeed the school administration and especially the board of trustees in school districts around the country? We should definitely be implementing outreach programs to the parents as well as to the teachers and the school officials. Maria Catalina will be running an exhibit booth at the NewSpace 2009 Conference at NASA Ames from July 17-20 for The Astronaut Teacher Alliance. If you attend the conference, make sure you meet with her and talk about these interesting and important issues and how you can get involved. If you want to email or contact Maria, please do so using maria@gotata.info. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:36:33 UTC
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Jeffrey Roth, Monday, 7-6-09 (40.11MB; download) -- Guest: Jeffrey Roth. Topics: Hollywood films, blockbusters, documentaries, "The Wonder Of It All", Moonwalker astronauts. Jeff Roth, noted documentary filmmaker, returned to The Space Show to discuss his outstanding documentary film, "The Wonder of It All" which tells the humanistic side of the moon landings through the men who actually went to the Moon and walked on the surface of the Moon. Jeff interviewed seven of the nine remaining Moonwalkers and in this film, you will hear about the experience in their own words. This film has won numerous film festivals – check it out on the film's website, www.thewonderofitallfilm.com. Jeff also gave us an important, relevant, and insider look at Hollywood and the modern day film industry. At times during our discussion, we learned as reality what many of us have suspected in that only the bottom line now matters. Talent, creativity, art, and more are subjugated to only the bottom line. Several listeners sent in questions about how to get the public more interested in space and space films. Suggestions covered many potentials including making space more applicable to regular people rather than just the astronaut family. You will want to hear what Jeff said in response to this particular comment. We also talked about the importance of the oral history of the Apollo moonwalkers as they represent a treasure for humanity and our nation. This film is a significant contributor to this important oral history. Jeff Roth will be going around the country for showing and signing opportunities. One place you can find out about his schedule is the following website: www.geocities.com/hollywood/hills/8944/. The listings are in alphabetical order so scroll down to Roth. You can contact Jeff Roth with your questions and comments through is website at www.thewonderofitallfilm.com/contact.html or directly at jeffroth@jeffrothproductions.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:47:12 UTC
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Andrew Chaikin, Sunday, 7-5-09 (48.46MB; download) -- Guest: Andrew Chaikin. Topics: 40th anniversary of Apollo, return to the Moon, lunar astronaut comments and interviews. Andy Chaikin returned to The Space Show to discuss his two new books and the 40th anniversary of Apollo. His books that we discussed on the show were "Mission Control, This is Apollo" which is a children's book but the pictures and drawings are unbelievable. Much of the book's artwork consists of paintings by lunar astronaut and artist Alan Bean and they are incredible. When you see these paintings in the book, you will know that this is a must have book. We also discussed in detail "Voices From The Moon: Apollo Astronauts Describe Their Lunar Experiences." More on this book later in this write-up. Both books will be placed on the One Giant Leap Foundation website book page at www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/books.htm. When you get to this page, look for the books by Andy Chaikin. When you purchase books through the links provided, Amazon financially supports The Space Show/One Giant Leap Foundation. In addition to discussing these books, we talked about the mood of the country during Apollo and what space development has meant to us all and we asked over and over again how we can recreate or create something similar today. We discussed energy, space for resources, Kraft Ehricke's vision as opposed to the idea of limitations as depicted by the Club of Rome perspective. We talked about returning the Moon and how best to do it versus going to a NEO or on to Mars. Here what Andy had to say about this but to the point, he read some of the quotes from the lunar astronauts in his book, Voices From The Moon, about how hard it would be to go to Mars at this time, quoting Dave Scott who said "Mars was a tough job." A listener asked about his favorite quotes and you will want to hear what Andy says he liked the most. Near the end of the show he was also asked about spouses and children and while this information is not part of his book, he did talk to many of the lunar astronaut wives and shares some thoughts with us regarding a few of them. At one point during our interview, Andy told us about a teacher who teaches kids in his classroom that we never went to the Moon! This provoked several listener comments as well as my comments and we will follow up on this with Andy as he plans to go to the school to talk to school officials about this type of teaching. During the show, you will hear stories about Alan Bean and his art, Michael Collins, Frank Borman and more. Andy reads many of the astronaut comments directly from this book. "Voices" is a historical treasure from the few who orbited and walked on the Moon. This is a must for your library and for your children. You can learn more about these books and others that Andy has written, his public speaking and visits to school by visiting his website, www.andrewchaikin.com. If you have questions or comments for Andy, please send them to Andrew@andrewchaikin.com or use the contact form on his website at http://www.andrewchaikin.com/pages/contact.php. When contacting him, please put The Space Show in the subject line. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:42:19 UTC
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Dr. Stuart Eves, Friday, 7-3-09 (61.46MB; download) -- Guest: Dr. Stuart Eves. Topics: Surrey Satellite Technology, LTD., smallsats, Moon, technology directions, U.S. growing market. Dr. Stuart Eves was our returning guest for this Space Show program to update us and discuss Surrey Satellite Technology, Ltd. missions and programs. Dr. Eves discussed five main areas with us: 1) the new SST office in Denver and the pursuit of business in the U.S.; 2) current SST missions; 3) technologies for small satellites and how this changes the ways we use them; 4) opportunities for small sats to be more cost-effective; 5) Surrey ambitions for sats beyond Earth orbit such as the Moon Lite program. We discussed these topics and subjects in some detail plus the listener questions took us into some new areas. For example, we had a question about the Surrey plan to work with White Knight 2 and to make GPS satellites for the European Galileo GPS array. Don't miss what Stuart had to say about these ventures. ITAR was a big topic given Surrey is in the UK and they now have a U. S. office. You will want to hear this discussion as it provides a good example of ITAR rules and compliance as Surrey the parent in the UK is also now in a Denver office. I also urge you to listen to the international ventures that Surrey is involved in and think how challenging such projects might be for a U.S. company given the current ITAR protocol. Dr. Eves took us to new territory as well by talking about stand alone devices and satellites that increasingly talk to each other and do on board data processing. These technologies are going to revolutionize how we use and apply satellites and develop the space industry. Stuart described their Moon Lite program which is really interesting. I hope they get their funding for the project. Stuart was asked what Surrey is doing to mitigate creating space debris when one of their satellites reaches the end of its life. As you will hear, Surrey is on the cutting edge of mitigation development and technology. Listen to how Surrey avoids regulation creep, something that really hampers American space projects. This was and is an action packed two hour discussion that you do not want to miss. If you have any questions or comments for Dr. Stuart Eves, you can email him directly at s.eves@sstl.co.uk.
Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:29:51 UTC
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Experimental Sounding Rocket Assoc. Tuesday, 6-30-09 (38.75MB; download) -- Guests: Dr. Paul Mueller, Adam Vore, David Stechmann. Topics: rocket competition, college teams, aerospace engineering, building rockets. Dr. Mueller returned for this Space Show program to update us on the recent intercollegiate rocket engineering competition for the Experimental Sounding Rocket Association (ESRA) recently held in Utah. With him on the show were the first and second place team captains, Adam Vore from Cal State Long Beach and David Stechmann from the University of Washington. Adam was with us for the first half of the show and David was with us for the second half of the show. Both Adam and David told us about their respective entries but more to the point, they discussed how they built and tested their rockets and the components, what it was like getting it all ready to fly in the competition, the problems they encountered and the solutions to those problems. Their stories were compelling, inspiring, and totally fun! To win the competition, the winner had to get the closest to 10,000 feet but also there were oral and written papers involved, not just the flight score. Please check the ESRA website for the papers and videos from the competition. The URL is http://soundingrocket.org. If you have questions or comments for our guests, please email them as follows: Dr. Paul Mueller: paul.mueller.iii@gmail.com; Adam Vore: vegandiver@gmail.com; David Stechmann: dstech@u.washington.edu. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:51:38 UTC
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James Pura and Ryan McLinko, Monday, 6-29-09 (41.69MB; download) -- Guests: James Pura and Ryan McLinko. Topics: NewSpace 2009, lunar opportunities, Kool-Aid, NASA Ames. Our guests, James Pura and Ryan McLinko are the co-chairs of the upcoming NewSpace 2009 conference to be held July 17-20 at NASA Ames in Mountain View, Ca. For more information about NewSpace 2009, please visit http://newspace2009.spacefrontier.org. James and Ryan went through some of the featured programming and keynote speakers. We talked about the $5,000 Heinlein Prize that will be given to the winner of the business plan competition. We also talked about the Black Tie Gala Event and Banquet the last night of the conference, July 20, also the 40th anniversary of Apollo 11. Some of the programming that was mentioned in detail during the show addressed the space elevator, space solar power, commercial lunar opportunities, the networking that will be available, point to point suborbital transportation, and Teachers in Space. Both James and Ryan also talked about the online registration, the conference hotel and the special conference rate, the programming with the ISU Summer Session attendees, and more. In the last segment of the show, I asked both guests how they discovered and got interested in the Space Frontier Foundation. This discussion led to asking them if they thought being a member of SFF and space advocacy organization helped them in their space career options, was a negative, or was neutral. This sparked a very interesting and creative discussion, don't miss it. If you have NewSpace 2009 conference questions, you can use the NewSpace 2009 website at http://newspace2009.spacefrontier.org/contacts.php. Not only can you find the email and phone information for our guests James and Ryan, you can contact other key people with SFF. If you have a specific question or comment for James Pura and Ryan McLinko, you can email them at james.pura@spacefrontier.org and ryan.mclinko@spacefrontier.org.
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Mark Canepa, Sunday, 6-28-09 (55.39MB; download) -- Guest: Mark Canepa. Topics: Modern high-power rocketry, Tripoli, NAR, rocket motors, insurance liability, space & rocketry. Mark Canepa, author of "Modern High-Power Rocketry 2" was the guest today to discuss not only his book but participating in high power rocketry. His book is available through the One Giant Leap Foundation website through the Amazon participation program. For order and book information, please visit www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/books.htm. Scroll down to Mark's book. Mark started our discussion by defining high powered rocketry as anything using an H rocket motor or higher. A-G motors are considered the smaller, entry level rocket motors. Mark went through some of the rules for both Tripoli and NAR, the two organizations that supervise and certify people who want to fly high powered rockets. I'm sure you will find this to be an interesting discussion. We also talked about the foreign participants that fly their rockets in the these large national and regional rocket events and how they get their rockets, engines and fuels to the United States. Listen to how its done as it might surprise you. In talking about his book, Mark explained that it takes a reader through Level One Certification to Level Three and much more regarding building rocket engines and the entire rocket, altimeters, and fuel. A listener brought the NAR TEAM America Rocket Challenge Program (TARC), a program which may interest you and your high school of choice. The TARC website is www.rocketcontest.org/index.cfm. You can contact our guest Mark Canepa and learn more about his rocket photography, his rocketry books and high-powered rocketry by visiting his website at www.modernhpr.com. You can also email your comments and questions to him at moparmbc@aol.com. Selected by: David Livingston [ stations ], Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:13:40 UTC
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